====================================================================== IBIS EDITORIAL TASK GROUP http://www.ibis.org/editorial_wip/ Mailing list: ibis-editorial@freelists.org Archives at http://www.freelists.org/archive/ibis-editorial/ ====================================================================== Attendees from April 1 Meeting (* means attended at least using audio) ANSYS Curtis Clark* Cadence Design Systems Bradley Brim Cisco David Siadat Intel Corp. Michael Mirmak* Keysight Technologies Radek Biernacki* Mentor Graphics Arpad Muranyi* Micron Technology Justin Butterfield, Randy Wolff* SAE ITC Maureen Lemankiewicz, Logen Johnson Signal Integrity Software Walter Katz*, Mike LaBonte* Teraspeed Labs Bob Ross* University of Aveiro in Portugal Wael Dghais Michael Mirmak convened the meeting. No patents were declared. Arpad Muranyi moved to approve the minutes of the March 25 meeting. Walter Katz seconded. No objections were raised and the minutes were approved. During opens Bob Ross mentioned that he has roughed out a presentation on various names of terminals and places to be careful in the document. Mike LaBonte presented his “IBIS 6.2 Editorial Resolutions”, which resulted from scouring through minutes to get information about proposed changes. He suggested producing a single BIRD to include a document that will become IBIS 6.2, but there could be other BIRDs on specific topics. Mike noted that he has added a new definitions section, but the document may not need it. Walter suggested that the word “Port” should be added. Michael suggested “Rail”. Radek Biernacki suggested “Reference”. Arpad notes that reserved words belong under [Pin], not [Model]. Mike corrected this. The remainder of the document consists of 17 pages, each on a separate topic, described below. All pages refer to the posted PDF version of IBIS 6.1. C_comp: Radek suggests that the C_comp section requires more global modification, not just the last sentence. Vih/Vil: Walter noted that, if we say that IBIS only describes DUT (device-under-test), then the Vinh & Vinl reference node is clear. If we define DIA (device-in-action) in a separate section, then referencing for these is required. Radek added that Vinl and Vinh may not be defined correctly for ECL/PECL. Figures 1 & 2: Walter suggested the SPICE2IBIS assumptions define a virtual test fixture. The reference node in Figures 1 & 2 are DUT- related. Radek noted that buffer reference terminals are not shown in the figures; Mike, replied that they are present and are “dangling”. [Voltage Range], [* Reference]: Michael stated that he is “horrified” by the ongoing confusion between rail and voltage value concepts in the text for these keywords. These will require significant rewriting to clarify. I-V Table reference connections: Bob noted that ECL could be referenced to a GND pin. Radek replied that these are using two different concepts – you can define how the I-V tables are referenced, completely irrespective of whether you have [Pin Mapping] or not. There is a distinction between [Pin Mapping]-like connection to rails and actual pins. Figures 7-10: Walter suggested the phrase “Vcc or pullup reference” should be labeled as [Pullup Reference]. Figure 11: Radek suggested this should be clarified to apply to either DUT or DIA (or both). Figure 16: Bob noted that this figure shows where composite current flows. Note that [Voltage Range] is involved. Mike replied that “absolute GND” is used here. Figure 17: Walter noted that this is the fixture for measuring [Composite Current]. Bob agreed, except with removal of the package elements. Randy Wolff added that ESR, ESL, pre-driver are more informational; they are present and assumed, but not really modeled in IBIS. Walter stated that this can be done with SPICE implementations. Table 12: Walter mentioned differences between Verilog and Berkeley SPICE. “Port” is language used by Verilog for what we call “terminals” or “nodes”. Radek disagrees with the referencing interpretation used in this section. Figure 29: GND used as a signal name. Walter suggested this could be bus label. Bob replied that there’s an exclusion for application of bus labels to [External Circuit]. Radek asked whether Mike has looked at Walter’s presentation where the necessary changes are made. Walter noted that he has worked with Mike already on this section. For next time, the team will review Bob’s presentation and Walter’s proposal for distinguishing between DUT and DIA. The team will also review Mike’s second presentation and new drawings. Mike moved to adjourn. Radek seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned.