====================================================================== IBIS EDITORIAL TASK GROUP http://www.ibis.org/Editorial_wip/ Mailing list: ibis-editorial@freelists.org Archives at http://www.freelists.org/archive/ibis-editorial/ ====================================================================== Attendees from April 7 Meeting (* means attended at least using audio) ANSYS Curtis Clark Intel Corp. Michael Mirmak Keysight Technologies Radek Biernacki*, Ming Yan Mentor, a Siemens Business Arpad Muranyi* Micron Technology Justin Butterfield, Randy Wolff* Signal Integrity Software Walter Katz, Mike LaBonte* Teraspeed Labs Bob Ross* Mike LaBonte convened the meeting. No patents were declared. Bob moved to approve the minutes of the March 17 meeting. Randy seconded the motion. The minutes were approved without objections. BIRD 186.1 Randy Wolff noted that a vote on 186.1 was postponed for editorial corrections. Radek Biernacki said one issue was about [File Name], where "may" needs to be "shall". Bob Ross said that in many cases we change "must" to "shall", at various places in the specification. AR: Bob Ross contact Walter Katz about BIRD 186.1 changes. Mike LaBonte showed a presentation "V7.0 Linked BIRDs" from Bob Ross. Bob said BIRD 186.x affects much of IBIS 6.1. For example it would allow capitalization changes in file names. Radek said that we were only making a suggestion there. Bob said BIRD 186.x also affects BIRD 189.x and BIRD 147.6, adding subdirectory support. Mike noted that Supporting_files had subdirectory support from day one. Bob said BIRD 181 also affects IBIS 6.1 as well as potential new BIRDs and BIRD 189.x. In addition, BIRD 189.x impacts BIRD181.x. Radek suggested that "Buffer" is better than "Buf" in our notation. Bob said BIRDs 182, 189.x and 184 impact IBIS 6.1. He estimated that 12 to 18 BIRDs will be needed, depending on how we split them up. Bob suggested excluding BIRD 181.x and others to make it easier to incorporate the important technical BIRDs. Bob also said BIRD 158.x has an unknown impact. Radek felt that BIRD 158 did not address legacy IBIS, it was specific to AMI. Arpad Muranyi said With BIRD 158 we had the question of where the boundary of a buffer is. Radek said the model maker is separately responsible for the package. Arpad said BIRD 189 supports both package and on-die interconnect, and we must be clear about whether a buffer model uses interconnect. Bob said the additional parser work adds to the size of the change we are undertaking. Mike noted that BIRD 181.x does not impact the parser. Arpad asked why we would exclude 181.x if there was no parser impact. Bob said it was questionable whether we should have the C_comp BIRD in our next major release. Arpad agreed We could probably forgo that. Arpad Muranyi moved to adjourn. Bob Ross seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned without objection.