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Attendees from April 14 Meeting (* means attended at least using audio)

ANSYS                                Curtis Clark
Intel Corp.                          Michael Mirmak
Keysight Technologies                Radek Biernacki, Ming Yan
Mentor, a Siemens Business           Arpad Muranyi
Micron Technology                    Justin Butterfield, Randy Wolff*
Signal Integrity Software            Walter Katz*, Mike LaBonte*
Teraspeed Labs                       Bob Ross*

Michael Mirmak convened the meeting.  No patents were declared.  

Walter Katz moved to approve the minutes of the April 7 meeting. Randy Wolff seconded
the motion.  The minutes were approved without objection.

AR: Bob Ross contact Walter Katz about BIRD 186.1 changes.
Done. The revised BIRD has been sent out.

Opens

BIRD 186.2:
Mike LaBonte showed BIRD 186.2 draft 1 sent by Bob Ross. It contained changes as
agreed in the previous meeting. Bob moved to submit it to the Open Forum. Walter Katz
seconded. Without objection the motion was approved.


BIRD 181.2:
Mike LaBonte showed Walter Katz's update to BIRD 181.2 draft 1 sent by Mike.
Regarding page 2 Walter said the keywords described were about the [Model], not the
[Component], and that we could change every instance of "pin" to "terminal". Walter
said this could form a simple solution for IBIS 7.0, without BIRD 181.  Bob suggested
that we might check with Radek about the term "terminal". He felt that that term was
commonly used where external sources are involved, but models would work fine without
an external source.  Walter countered that on page 4 we were already using "terminal"
in the same context. He suggested reviewing the proposed change.  Bob asked if Walter
was suggesting not using the SPICE-like terminology. Walter said we should.  Bob said
we would still need changes in BIRD 181.x to ISSO, etc.

Mike showed his changes in BIRD 181.2 draft 2, which included Vtable related changes
to the NOTES ON DATA DERIVATION section of IBIS.  Bob said there were issues about
using fixed 2.2V values for ECL.  Walter suggested tabling the BIRD 181.x topic and
moving on to the next topic. The 30 minutes allotted for the discussion had expired.


IBIS 7.0:
Bob Ross showed "V7.0 plan proposal draft 2".  Bob said the document assumed that some
".x" version of certain unapproved BIRDs would be approved, and these were denoted with
".X". He noted that we had 2 redriver proposals on the table.  Bob felt that BIRD 181.x
could be pushed off, as well as the reference terminal BIRD. This would push most if
not all changes planned for 6.2 to after 7.0.  Walter Katz said he mostly agreed with
Bob, and that his list for IBIS 7.0 consideration would be:

  1) all approved BIRDs
  2) BIRD 189.x
  3) BIRD 187.x
  4) BIRD 166 (if Keysight agrees)
  5) BIRD 158.x
  6) BIRDs for figure changes
  7) BIRD 186.x

Walter proposed tabling BIRD 181.x and Fangyi Rao's redriver flow changes.

Bob Ross said we would need to come to some resolution between the two competing flow
proposals.  Walter said he did not want to spend time on BIRD 166 if Keysight was not
currently in agreement with it. He noted that their proposal was not yet in the form
of a BIRD, and that they seemed to agree with Walter's proposal to alter the Rx input,
but Keysight wished to extend beyond that.

Walter proposed dropping the BIRDs for figure changes from IBIS 7.0 consideration.
Randy Wolff said the proposals raised seemed reasonable.  Mike LaBonte suggested that
it would help for Bob's document to use color coding to distinguish between approved
and not yet approved BIRDs. Bob's document could be used to propose candidate content
for IBIS 7.0, formally or informally, in the next Open Forum meeting.

Walter Katz suggested there should be no need to schedule another editorial meeting
at this time.  All agreed. Mike LaBonte will miss the next Open Forum meeting, which
Michael Mirmak has agree to chair. Mike will contact Michael to explain decisions from
this meeting.


Walter Katz moved to adjourn. Randy Wolff seconded the motion.
The meeting adjourned without objection.