IBIS 5/27 Meeting Minutes

From: Derrick Duehren <Derrick_Duehren@ccm2.jf.intel.com>
Date: Wed Jun 01 1994 - 17:54:24 PDT

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 Date: June 1, 1994

 From: Will Hobbs (503) 696-4369, fax (503) 696-4210
          Will_Hobbs@ccm2.jf.intel.com
          XTG Modeling Manager, Intel Corp., Chairperson, IBIS Open Forum
          Intel Corporation
          5200 NE Elam Young Pkwy, Hillsboro, Oregon 97124 USA
          and
          Derrick Duehren (503) 696-4299, fax (503) 696-4904
          Derrick_Duehren@ccm.jf.intel.com
          Intel Program Manager

 Subject: Minutes from IBIS Open Forum 5/27/94

 To:
 Anacad Steffen Rochel
 Ansoft Henri Maramis
 Atmel Corporation Dan Terry
 Cadence Design Sandeep Khanna, Chris Reed,
                               Kumar*
 Contec Maah Sango, Clark Cochran
 Digital Equipment Corp. Barry Katz
 High Design Technology Michael Smith
 HyperLynx Steve Kaufer, Kellee Crisafulli
 IBM Jay Diepenbrock
 IBM-Motorola alliance Lynn Warriner, Hoa Quoc, John Burnett
 Integrity Engineering Greg Doyle, Wayne Olhoft
 Intel Corporation Stephen Peters*, Don Telian, Will Hobbs
                               Arpad Muranyi, Derrick Duehren*,
                               John Keifer*, Robin Rosenbaum*
 Interconnectix, Inc. Bob Ross*
 Intergraph Ian Dodd, David Wiens
 IntuSoft Charles Hymowitz
 Logic Modeling Corp. Randy Harr
 Mentor Graphics Greg Seltzer, Ravender Goyal
 Meta-Software Mei Wong, Mei-Ling Wei
 NEC Hiroshi Matsumoto
 MicroSim Arthur Wong, Jerry Brown, Graham Bell
 National Semiconductor Syed Huq*
 North Carolina State U. Paul Franzon, Michael Steer, Steve Lipa
 Performance Signal Integrity Vivek Raghawan, Eric Bracken*
 Quad Design Jon Powell
 Quantic Labs Mike Ventham*, Zhen Mu
 Racal-Redac John Berrie
 Siemens Nixdorf Werner Rissiek, Olaf Rethmeier*
 Texas Instruments Bob Ward*
 Thomson-CSF/SCTF Jean Lebrun
 Zeelan Technology Hiro Moriyasu, George Opsahl

 CC:
 Intel Corporation Randy Wilhelm, Jerry Budelman,
                               Intel IBIS team

 In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *

 Upcoming Meetings: The room and bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences
 are listed below:
                     Date Bridge Number Reservation #
                     6/09/94 Face-to-face meeting at DAC
                     6/24/94 TBD

 All meetings are 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM PDT (15:00 to 17:00 UTC). We try to have
 agendas out 7 days before each open forum and meeting minutes out within 7
 days after. When you call into the meeting, ask for the IBIS Open Forum and
 give the bridge operator the reservation number.

 If you know of someone new who wants to join the e-mail reflector
 (ibis@vhdl.org) send e-mail to ibis-request@vhdl.org.

 NOTE: "AR" = Action Required.

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 5/27/94 Meeting Agenda
 ----------------------

 Check-in
 Intros of new IBIS participants Duehren
 Review of previous meeting's minutes Duehren
 Miscellany/Announcements Duehren
 Opens for new issues All
 New models available All
 IBIS Cookbook Rosenbaum
 IBIS 2.0 Ratification/DAC/Other 2.0 Issues Duehren
 - May 20 Editing meeting - Report
 - Rev 2.0 Ratification Summit
 Rev 2.0 Review/Discussion/Approval of pending sections All
 BIRD 14/16, New section for [Model] sub-parameters Keifer
 BIRD 15, Clarification on usage of the V/I tables Arpad
 Wrap-up, Next Meeting Plans Duehren

 1. Intros of new IBIS participants
 New participant: None.

 2. Review of Pervious Meeting's Minutes
 There were no corrections made to last month's minutes.

 3. Miscellany/Announcements
 IBIS is mentioned prominently in "Signal Integrity Analysis in ASIC Design" By
 Tai-Yu Chou in the May 94 issue of System Design.

 4. Opens for new issues
 Golden Parser changes need a formal change process (Parser Change Order). Not
 discussed.

 5. New models available
 None.

 6. IBIS Cookbook
 Robin Rosenbaum reported that she has some comments rolled in, others have
 raised technical questions. Stephen has made some updates per Rev2.0. Send
 email to RobinR@ichips.intel.com to get a copy. Specify Word2.0/Word6.0/ASCII
 format.

 We still need examples in it. Kumar will look at it and possibly provide
 examples.

 7. IBIS 2.0 Ratification/DAC
     - May 20 Editing meeting - Brief report given (see separate
        minutes)

     - Rev 2.0 Ratification Summit
        AR Kumar: Publish meeting location/directions to the reflector.
                  [DONE]
        Time: 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM
        Location: Room 19, Mezzanine Level, San Diego Convention Center
        Misc: Continental Breakfast and coffee breaks will be provided.
                  Lunch is the responsibility of the attendees.
        Contact: For logistics related information only contact
                  Laurel Stanley at Cadence (las@cadence.com)
      
        AR Will: Get cost estimates from Paul before DAC and create the
        agenda
        6/9/94 Summit Agenda Suggestions:
          Levels of support?
          What's needed for version 3?
          Turn IBIS over to standards body?
          Legal basis of IBIS/Tax ID?
          IBIS into Pinnacles/SGML (Randy Harr)?
          Timing information within IBIS?
          Future of IBIS?
          Chairmanship?
          Update of Parser
          Funding Issues

 8. Rev 2.0 Review/Discussion/Approval of pending sections
 We addressed all Rev 2.0 draft open issues brought up:
 o Bob Ward: Correction to temp range (typ min max): "NA" is valid
   for min and max only.
 o Bob Ross: Eliminate the word "usual" from the spec.
 o Bob Ross: Eliminate parameters, sub-parameters from General Syntax
   Rule #1.
 o Bob Ross: [Component Name] argument can have blank characters. Add
   recommendation to not use them.
 o Bob Ward: [End Model Data] keyword is overloaded. Add an [End Package
   Model] keyword.
   AR Eric B: Post a note documenting the changes to the package model
      section of Rev2.0. [DONE]
 o Move all the various IBIS_CHK program notes to the end, after a "cut"
   line.
 o Under the [Model] keyword, make a table specifying which sub-params
   are required/optional.
 o Make the wording on power supply specs consistent.
 o And many more... (See rev2.0x.txt file being posted by Stephen Peters.)

 AR Stephen: Call Kellee regarding BIRD 8.2 wording.

 9. BIRD 14/16, New section for [Model] sub-parameters
 Bob W. feels it is a nice feature, but Bob does not want this BIRD included in
 the spec. yet. Until reduction of model size becomes a real issue, he feels
 this BIRD adds complexity we don't need -- no compelling need now. Kumar
 agrees. This lead into a discussion of the need to discuss pin-centric vs.
 model-centric IBIS philosophies.

 Consensus was that it is a good idea, but we will table this BIRD until there
 is a real need and possibly add it in Rev 3.0.

 10. BIRD 15, Clarification on usage of the V/I tables
 Consensus to let BIRD 15 stay as is in Rev2.0 draft.

 11. Wrap-up, Next Meeting Plans
 Next meeting is 6/9/94, 8:00 am, at the DAC conference in San Diego.

 AR Kumar: Post IBIS meeting location details to the reflector Loire
 Supposki (Kumar). [DONE]

 The next meeting after DAC is 6/24/94.
Received on Wed Jun 1 16:57:46 1994

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