dv/dt measurement

all,

I have a question on rise and fall measurement.
In the cook book, it states that the rise and fall time
measurement are "no load" measurements; ie, remove the
package parameters(L/R/C) before doing the simulation.

But, later in Lab measurement section, it states that
Capturing rise/fall time data requires either a specific test
fixture or a motherboard to which the DUT can be attached.
Rise/fall time measurements require an oscilloscope with
at least a 4 GHz bandwidth. Take into account the effect
on the rise/fall times of the device packaging and capacitive
load.

So, why it does not use any C_pkg and C_leadfram vaule
in rise and fall time measurement in IBIS model.

I am generating ibis model from spice.

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Best Regards,
			Vincent Chang
			
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