RE: [IBIS] [Composite Current] with series termination

From: Zhiping Yang \(zhiping\) <zhiping_at_.....>
Date: Thu Oct 13 2005 - 14:04:39 PDT
Hi Mike,

I might not understand your questions completely.   Here is what I can
think about it.

First, the composite current will be specified only under certain load
conditions and it is the total current.  In the integration of composite
current into IBIS implementation, it is not simple addition of composite
current to IBIS model, it has to be pre-processed and the added current
will be the difference between composite current and pure IBIS model
current.  

For the case you specified, the BIRD95 will improve the accuracy at the
rising/falling edge.  The constant 25mA current after rising/falling
edge should be able to taking care by existing IBIS simulator.

Please call me if you still have any further questions.  Thanks.

Best regards,

Zhiping

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ibis@eda.org [mailto:owner-ibis@eda.org] On Behalf Of Mike
LaBonte (milabont)
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:25 AM
To: ibis@eda.org
Subject: [IBIS] [Composite Current] with series termination

I would like to ask the simulator gurus out there how the BIRD95
[Composite Current] waveform would be used with series termination, ie.
reflective switching. With a 2.5V series terminated 0.5ns buffer
driving, say, a 2ns, 50 ohm transmission line, the pad voltage rises to
1.25V, stays there for quite a while, then completes the rise to 2.5V.
During the 1.25V period the pad current will be flat at about 1.25/50 =
25mA. This pad current flattening begins about half way through the
"normal" rise time, as measured using the standard test fixtures. At
that point the pad current flattens out at 25mA, but the [Composite
Current] is telling the simulator the VDDQ current needs to continue
dropping to zero.

Here are the 3 currents I see in a rising edge simulation of such a test
fixture. Sorry, I can't make the 3 curves add up to zero at all points
using ASCII graphics:

Pad current  :

-50 ---                                  reflection back to driver here
                                                     |

                                                     v

            _______________________________________/\

           /                                         \

          /                                           \

  0 ___  /                                             \_____________

 


VDDQ current  :

          /\
50 ---   | |                                                    
         | |

         | |

         | \_______________________________________/\

         |                                           \

         |                                            \

  0 ___  /                                             \_____________



GND current  :

              
-50 ---                                                         
          /\

         | |

         | |

         | |

         | |

  0 ___  /  \_______________________________________/\_______________



[Composite Current] probably looks like this  :

          /\
50 ---   | |                                                    
         | |

         | |

         | |

         | |

         | |

  0 ___  /  \________________________________________________________   
      

My question is, will the simulator deliver the constant 25mA current at
the pad for several nanoseconds if it is being told that VDDQ current is
a spike that drops to zero at the end of the 0.5ns "normal" rise time?
This may have come up before, but if so I haven't heard it put quite
this way.

Mike LaBonte

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