[IBIS] IBIS-ISS Package Modeling : The Physics of a Package Model

From: Walter Katz <wkatz@sisoft.com>
Date: Fri Jul 20 2012 - 13:27:27 PDT

All,

 

Rather than discussing the possible IBIS solutions for package models, I
would like to describe the physics of the problem, and then ask some
questions of what part of the physics need to be implemented.

 

I would like to frame these questions with an example:

 

Package

150 VDD Pins

150 VSS Pins

100 Single Ended Channel Pins

Die Bump Pads

200 VDD Bump Pads

200 VSS Bump Pads

100 Single Ended Channel Bump Pads

Die Buffer Pads

100 VDD Buffer Pads

100 VSS Buffer Pads

100 Single Ended Channel Buffer Pads

 

Complete Package Model (describes the full physics of the package
interconnect)

150 VDD Pins

150 VSS Pins

100 Single Ended Channel Pins

200 VDD Bump Pads

200 VSS Bump Pads

100 Single Ended Channel Bump Pads

900 total ports

 

Complete On-Die Model (describes the full physics of the die interconnect)

200 VDD Bump Pads

200 VSS Bump Pads

100 Single Ended Channel Bump Pads

100 VDD Buffer Pads

100 VSS Buffer Pads

100 Single Ended Channel Buffer Pads

 

A Full Simulation will consist of

Board and all of the stuff on the Board

1 Package model instance

1 on-die model instance

100 IBIS buffers

 

Connections that need to be rectified

400 connections between Board and Package Model

500 connections between Package Model and On-Die Model

300 connections between On-Die Model and 100 Buffer Models

 

Questions to IC Vendors:

Is this setup is a completer representation of the problem?

Is it practical to produce the Package Model and On-Die Model in this
level of detail?

Do you want/need to use a subset of the on-die VDD and VSS Bump Pads in
your On-Die Model?

Do you want to be able to represent the VDD and VSS Bump Pads as two
nodes?

Do you already include the interconnect between the Channel Bump Pads and
Channel Buffer Pads in your Buffer Model?

Do you need interconnect between VDD and VSS Bump Pads and VDD and VSS
Buffer Pads, or is it sufficient to "tie" each VDD and VSS Buffer Pad to
specific VDD and VSS Bump Pads.

Do you want to be able to distribute Package and On-Die Models for slices
(subsets) of the 100 Channels?

Do you want to be able to distribute multiple Package and On-Die Models
with different combinations of the choices above?

 

Walter

 

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