RE: [IBIS] RE: BIRD162: Change to Usage "Info, Out" for AMI Jitter and Noise Parameters

Walter,

Thanks for the explanation, but from past AMI discussions I
understand what this sentence is trying to say.  What I was
"complaining" about (in addition to the missing "s" for plural
in "results") is the wording of "may not change other results of the
simulation".  I can't help it but to me this sounds a little
awkward or limping as far as English goes, but since English
is not my native language I don't know how to explain what is
wrong with it.  I hope that having flagged an alert to this,
someone might come up with a better wording.

Thanks,

Arpad
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From: Walter Katz [mailto:wkatz@sisoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:35 PM
To: Muranyi, Arpad; ibis@eda.org
Subject: RE: [IBIS] RE: BIRD162: Change to Usage "Info, Out" for AMI Jitter and Noise Parameters

Arpad,

One grammatical error is that "result" should be "results".

Now for what this sentence was intended to mean:

"may not change any inputs to AMI models":
The only input (after an AMI_GetWave call) that the EDA tool can change is the input to AMI_GetWave (either Tx or Rx). The only input to an AMI_GetWave that can change is the waveform. Take Tx_DCD for example. The AMI_Init can return Tx_DCD (if Tx_DCD is Usage Out) and the EDA tool may use this value of Tx_DCD to determine the waveform input to Tx AMI_GetWave, but may not use the Tx_DCD returned by Tx AMI_GetWave to affect the waveform for future calls to Tx AMI_GetWave.

"may not change other result of the simulation":
The EDA tool may choose to implement Tx_Rj statistically rather than affecting the waveform input to the Tx AMI_GetWave. The EDA tool may only use the value of Tx_Rj returned by Tx AMI_Init (if Tx_Rj is Usage Out), and may not use the values returned by Tx AMI_GetWave.

Does this answer your question.

Walter

From: owner-ibis@eda.org<mailto:owner-ibis@eda.org> [mailto:owner-ibis@eda.org] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:52 PM
To: ibis@eda.org<mailto:ibis@eda.org>
Subject: [IBIS] RE: BIRD162: Change to Usage "Info, Out" for AMI Jitter and Noise Parameters

Thanks to the authors of this BIRD for the quick actions.
I would like to request that the following sentence be
corrected, because it is grammatically incorrect, and
because of that not clear (red emphasis added to point
to the problem area):

"...but the EDA Tool/Simulator may not change any inputs to AMI models or change other result of the simulation based on the values returned..."

Thanks,

Arpad
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From: owner-ibis@eda.org<mailto:owner-ibis@eda.org> [mailto:owner-ibis@eda.org] On Behalf Of Mirmak, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:23 PM
To: ibis@eda.org<mailto:ibis@eda.org>
Subject: [IBIS] BIRD162: Change to Usage "Info, Out" for AMI Jitter and Noise Parameters

BIRD162, Change to Usage "Info, Out" for AMI Jitter and Noise Parameters, has been posted on behalf of Bob Ross of Teraspeed Consulting Group, Walter Katz of Signal Integrity Software (SiSoft), and Fangyi Rao of Agilent Technologies.



The text may be found at http://www.eda.org/ibis/birds/bird162.docx (the text is not attached here due to a reflector policy prohibition on attachments). The BIRD will be introduced at the next IBIS Open Forum teleconference.



A complete list of BIRDs, including the status of each, is available at: http://www.eda.org/ibis/birds/



      Michael Mirmak

      Intel Corp.

      Chair, IBIS Open Forum


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