====================================================================== IBIS INTERCONNECT TASK GROUP http://www.eda.org/ibis/interconnect_wip/ Mailing list: ibis-interconnect@freelists.org Archives at http://www.freelists.org/archive/ibis-interconn/ ====================================================================== Attendees from August 5 Meeting (* means attended) ANSYS Curtis Clark* Cadence Design Systems Bradley Brim Cisco David Siadat Intel Corp. Michael Mirmak* Keysight Technologies Radek Biernacki* Mentor Graphics Arpad Muranyi* Micron Technology Justin Butterfield*, Randy Wolff* Signal Integrity Software Walter Katz*, Mike LaBonte* Teraspeed Labs Bob Ross* University of Aveiro in Portugal Wael Dghais No patents were declared. No opens were raised. The discussion focused on the alternative proposals for the “Terminal” structure in the draft Interconnect BIRD. Bob Ross shared his examples of Terminals, in contrast with the existing format. He suggested eliminating the “Terminal” word in lines, specifying the number of terminals explicitly. “Number” is maintained, ahd location, name_type, and name are provided. He added new designation, “Pin_A_rail”. Everything in the list other than Name is a reserved word. Terminal numbers must be sequential, and even Name can contain a reserved word. Walter Katz commented that the example lists contain A_puref, then signal_name, then DQS; what does it mean? Bob noted that the signal name is DQS, referring to the pullup reference connection on DQS. Walter observed that A_puref is on the buffer side. His recent “elevator speech” e-mail was intended as an introduction or quick summary of the basic points of the interconnect format. Bob stated that Signal connections can use the pin name or the signal name. The rules suggest one can skip terminals, or list them out of order. The highest number given must match the total number of Terminals given (not sure about this rule). Radek Biernacki observed that S4P has five terminals and an S-element declaration has 5 terminals. Bob suggested that the default power and ground voltages come from the IBIS model. Walter added that you can also have a separate subcircuit for power distribution. Pin VSS and Buffer VSS would be specified separately, with all the VSS on the package shorted together; all the VSS on the silicon shorted together on another node. With VDD, that would be a 4-terminal distribution system. Randy Wolff confirmed that this is a possible way. Bob’s second existing example does not show power rails either. Walter noted that, in the first example, you would need a second subcircuit for your power distribution, with a separate terminal list. For VDD, the interconnect is between VDD pins and die VDD pads. Of the 8 terminals shown, 5 are signal pins and 3 are pad signal names (which are VDD rails). “Pin_A_signal” here is “Pin_rail” under Bob’s approach. “Rail” is either a signal name or a pin name. The list must contain either a specific buffer or a specific signal name. Walter noted that IBIS is clear that signal_name is the databook name. VDD has a certain value, VDDQ has a certain value. These are separate networks. Arpad Muranyi’s proposals were not discussed. These will be addressed in a later meeting. Walter accepted the AR to provide alternate versions of the draft examples using the simplified format based on Bob’s suggestions. ARs Walter Katz - to provide the proposal document’s examples using the new format, for discussion Michael Mirmak - to send out Interconnect draft 22 as written - DONE