DATE: 11/1/99 SUBJECT: 10/29/99 EIA IBIS Open Forum Meeting Minutes VOTING MEMBERS AND 1999 PARTICIPANTS LIST: Applied Simulation Technology Raj Raghuram, Norio Matsui, Neven Orhanovic, Fred Ballesteri Avanti Nikolai Bannov* Cadence Design Mike LaBonte, Todd Westerhoff Cisco Systems Syed Huq Compaq Bob Haller*, Steve Coe, Shafir Rahman, Maher Elasad, Peter LaFlamme, Doug Burns Cypress (Rajesh Manapat) EMC Corporation Fabrizio Zanella, Alex Nosovitski, Shan Haq Fairchild Semiconductor [Peter LaFlamme], Craig Klem, Graham Connolly, Christian Klein H.A.S. Electronics (Haruny Said) Hewlett Packard (EEsof, etc.) Paul Gregory, Henry Wu HyperLynx (& Pads Software) Matthew Flora*, Kellee Crisafulli, Lynne Green, John Angulo*, Gene Garat, Robin Edwards IBM Greg Edlund, Michael Cohen*, Praven Patel, Paul Clouser Incases Olaf Rethmeier, Werner Rissiek, David Eagles, Wilhelm Arnoldi, Ulrich Losch Intel Corporation Stephen Peters*, Arpad Muranyi*, Frank Kern, Martin Chang, Dave Moxley, Kerry Nelson, Jeff Day, Richard Mellitz, Peter Liou, Will Hobbs, Henri Maramis LSI Logic (Symbios Logic) Scott King Mentor Graphics Bob Ross*, Mohamed Mahmoud, Sherif Hammad, Jean Oudinot, Markku Kukkanen, Martin Groeber, Karine Loudet, Hisham Gamal, Evgeny Wasserman, Tom Dagostino, Mohamed Nasef Mitsubishi (Tam Cao) Motorola (Ron Werner) National Semiconductor Milt Schwartz North East Systems Associates Edward Sayre, Michael Baxter, Kathy Breda, Ed Sayre III, Jinhua Chen NEC (Hiroshi Matsumoto) Nortel Networks Martin Hall (& at Viewlogic), Calvin Trowell Ross Pryor* Philips Semiconductor Todd Andersen, Peter Christiaans Quantic EMC (Mike Ventham) Siemens Bernhard Unger, Christian Mitschke, Manfred Maurer, Peter Kaiser, Wolfram Meyer, Gerald Bannert, Harmut Ibowski, Katja Zuleeg, Hans Pichlmaier, Eckhard Lenski, Kortheuer Udo, Christian Sporrer SiQual Scott McMorrow Texas Instruments Jean-Claude Perrin, Shankar Balasubramaniah, Ramzi Ammar, Thomas Fisher Time Domain Analysis Systems Dima Smolyansky, Steven Corey Viewlogic Systems Chris Rokusek, Guy de Burgh*, Cary Mandel, (Jon Powell) VeriBest Ian Dodd Via Technologies (Weber Chuang) VLSI Technology D.C. Sessions OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN 1999: 3Com Roy Leventhal 3Dfx Interactive Ken Wu Actel Corporation Silvia Montoya Alcatel Steven Criel Analytical Edge Robert Easson Applied Microelectronics Brian Sanderson BMW Friedrich Haslinger Bogatin Enterprise Eric Bogatin Bosch Telecom Detlef Wolf Celestica Danny Da Silva Dynamics Research Corporation Mike Walsh ECI Telecom Daniel Adar EIA [Patti Rusher], Cecilia Fleming*, Dan Heinemeier Electronique Catherine Gross EFM Consulting Ekkehard Miersch FCI John Ellis Foxcomm Jeff Walden General DataComm Laurence Michaels High Design Technology Razvan Ene Hitachi ULSI Hideki Fukuda Infineon Thomas Latzel Intracon Design Mike Osmond KAW Shinichi Maeda Litton Systems Robert Bremer Lucent Jason Pritchard Matsushita Atsuji Itoh Molex Incorporated Gus Panella* Newbridge Networks Bruce Carlile Oce Printing Systems Ernst Deiringer Praegitzer Design Rick Newell, Paul Galloway, Joe Socha Rockwell Collins Susan Tweeton, Ron Hau Rode Consulting Chris Rode Samsung Jung-Gun Byun, Cheol-Seung Choi Shindengen Tsuyoshi Horigome Signals & Systems Engineering Tom Hawkins STMicroelectronics Fabrice Boissieres, Philippe LeFevre Stratus Keith Vieira StorageTek Nick Krull Sun Microsystems Victor Chang Kevin Ko, Greg Fitzgerald, Nick LaPlaca Tektronix Tom Brinkoetter Teradyne Mikhail Khusid VDOL Robert Novosel Xilinx Susan Wu (Unaffiliated, Retired) Bruce Wenniger In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *. Principal members or other active members who have not attended are in parentheses. Participants who no longer are in the organization are in square brackets. Upcoming Meetings: The bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences are as follows: Date Bridge Number Reservation # Passcode November 19, 1999 (916) 356-9200 2-356763 7473493 All meetings are 8:00 AM to 9:55 AM Pacific Time. We try to have agendas out 7 days before each Open Forum and meeting minutes out within 7 days after. When you call into the meeting, ask for the IBIS Open Forum hosted by Will Hobbs and give the reservation number and passcode. NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -------------------------------- MINUTES ------------------------------------- INTRODUCTIONS AND MEETING QUORUM No new participants. MEMBERSHIP UPDATE AND TREASURER'S REPORT Bob Ross has already announced that Via Technologies and Nortel Networks have joined making the total IBIS Open Forum Membership at 32. All members have now paid. Because the most recent members joined late in 1999, we will probably carry their membership through year 2000 and issue invoices only for differences in dues, if any. REVIEW OF MINUTES AND AR'S The October 1, 1999 IBIS Open Forum Meeting and October 14, 1999 IBIS Summit Meeting minutes were approved without change. Other AR's will be discussed during the meeting. MISCELLANY/ANNOUNCEMENTS None. PRESS AND WEB PAGE UPDATES Bob Ross reported that Syed Huq made some more Roster page updates and Guy de Burgh has been tracking down the final membership names. The last report indicated that information is still needed from three member companies. Bob noted that a show link has been added for show literature on conferences we participate in at: http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/shows/designcon2000/ The Upcoming Events page also links to this for the DesignCon2000 IBIS Meeting. Also Bob stated that Mike LaBonte sent out the announcement that a public domain version of (including source code of user interface) of Spitran from Cadence is uploaded on the IBIS home page under FREE Tools. http://www.eia.org/eig/ibis/ibis.htm and is available for downloading on http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/s2ibis/spitran/ Bob reported the article "Models for Signal Integrity Simulation" in the October 1999 issue of Printed Circuit Design by Lynne Green on pp. 22-24. Bob reported that four Siemens IBIS presentations are available from the Siemens site including three which were given at IBIS Summits: http://www.atd.siemens.de/it-dl.alt/eda/emv/download/ibis_summit399.pdf http://www.atd.siemens.de/it-dl.alt/eda/emv/download/ibis_summit299.pdf http://www.atd.siemens.de/it-dl.alt/eda/emv/download/ibis_summit98.pdf http://www.atd.siemens.de/it-dl.alt/eda/emv/download/ibis_be_ft98.pdf Finally, Bob reported the article "Models for Signal Integrity Simulation" in the October 1999 issue of Printed Circuit Design by Lynne Green on pp. 22-24. NEW MODELS AVAILABLE, LIBRARY UPDATE Bob Ross reported that Jon Powell is still updating the Model page. Bob reported these additions and changes: Clear Logic has IBIS Models under http://www.clear-logic.com/literature/ibis.html Integrated Circuits Systems, Inc. (ICS) has one model under: http://www.icst.com/pdf/ics1523.ibs Integrated Silicon Solutions, Inc. (ISSI) has a place for links. The SRAM products already show IBIS model entries. http://www.issi.com/models.html Samsung Models online again for DRAM, SRAMS, Graphic Memory, Mask ROM, and Flash Products in these links, respectively: http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/simulationmodels/dram/dram.htm http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/simulationmodels/sram/sram.htm http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/simulationmodels/gram/gram.htm http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/simulationmodels/mrom/mrom.htm http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/simulationmodels/flash/flash.htm Tundra Semiconductor has some IBIS Models that are downloadable and also available through direct contact. These are found by following the Products links to the Toolbox link: http://www.tundra.com/ Xilinx IBIS Models have moved to http://support.xilinx.com/support/troubleshoot/htm_index/sw_ibis.htm OPENS FOR NEW ISSUES Arpad Muranyi on BIRD64 - Package Model Selector Arpad Muranyi on BIRD65 - C_comp Refinements INTERNATIONAL/EXTERNAL PROGRESS - IEC 62014-1 (IBIS Version 3.2) - Cecilia Fleming reported that progress is continuing, but IEC has decided to substitute Version 3.2. Bob Ross commented that a copyright issue between EIA and IEC was favorably resolved so that EIA (and the IBIS Open Forum) retains the copyright to control and modify the document. Cecilia stated that she expects IEC 62014-1 to be officially ratified within a few months. - pr EIAJ ED-5302 Standard for I/O Interface Model for Integrated Circuits (IMIC) - Bob Ross reported that a Version 1.2 has been posted for review by December 25, 1999. The link to this document can be found on the Specs page of the EIA IBIS home page. - IEC PWI 93-1 Models of Integratd Circuits for EMI Behavioral Simulation (formerly designated as IEC 93/67/NP IBIS and EMC Simulation) - Bob Ross had no report. - JC-16.2 Subcommittee: Modeling and Test - Bob Ross had no report. IBIS SUMMIT OCTOBER 14, 1999 REVIEW Bob Ross felt that we had a successful IBIS Summit Meeting on October 14, 1999 with good interaction. We unintentionally scheduled the meeting on the last day of the PCB Conference East trade show, and several participants had to leave early (or could not attend). This was due the the trade show being unexpectedly shifted by one day to avoid Columbus day holiday rates for setup costs. Bob noted that we are planning to hold the next East Coast IBIS Summit Meeting on Thursday, September 14, 1999, possibly at Worchester, Massachusetts where the PCB Conference East is being held. We believe this is a non-trade show day. FUTURE IBIS SUMMITS Bob Ross noted that the DesignCon2000 IBIS Summit Meeting is being planned for Monday, January 31, 1999 in Santa Clara, California. Jon Powell will be coordinating the trade show IBIS booth arrangements. National Semiconductor will sponsor the lunch, and DesignCon2000 will sponsor (fund) the meeting room and other refreshments. This is the normal arrangement because the IBIS Open Forum is officially an Associate Sponsor of DesignCon2000. Bob noted the he had sent out a DesignCon2000 invitation note to register early. October 31, 1999 was the last day for discounts. However, employees of any of the 32 member companies will also get discounts to the DesignCon2000 Conference. Returning attendees will get the best discount (20%) to the Conference. As noted earlier, the DesignCon2000 advance registration brochure can be accessed from the IBIS home page Upcoming Events link. Bob stated that the IBIS Summit Meeting at Date2000 in Paris, France is being planned on Friday, March 31, 1999 from the morning through early afternoon. This will accommodate European participants to return home on Friday. So far Incases and Mentor Graphics are co-sponsors, but we are seeking other co-sponsors. S2IBIS3 COMMITTEE REPORT Michael Cohen reported on meetings held on October 21, 1999 and October 28, 1999. He stated that teleconference meetings are now being held every Thursday. Work is continuing on a requirements specification. Michael expects that it will be made available by the end of the year. IBIS DUES AND FUNDING Bob opened the discussion on IBIS Funding and dues by giving some background information. The IBIS Open Forum membership currently costs $500 per year. Actual expenses were much less than the money received and we would just leave the remaining money with EIA to cover the administrative overhead and expenses for the services provided. The EIA accounting system has never provided the EIA IBIS Open Forum meaningful information about actual expenses or income. However, EIA has now improved the accounting and reporting system and now able to track income and expenses better. Based on reasonable allocations for EIA services, we can now allocate some reasonable costs for direct EIA support (part of Cecilia Fleming and staff) and other EIA services for legal, accounting, international representation, etc. Bob gave a projected Year 2000 budget that was sent out to the IBIS reflector (and is included in the Minutes below). Bob explained some to the items. The income is based on an estimated 30 members, at $500 per year. The Other Income is an estimation of the royalties to the IBIS Open Forum for Global Engineering Standards sales (before, we hand no record of this). The Travel & Entertainment expense and Meetings and Conference Expense are for the IBIS Summit Meeting held in June and associated with the Design Automation Conference. Unlike other Summit Meetings, this IBIS Summit Meeting is supported directly by the EIA IBIS dues. Cecilia noted that EIA appears to be comfortable with the expense allocations in the Budget. However, the formal EIA discussion on total budget issues was deferred until December 1999. Bob also felt that the allocations were very reasonable for the services provided and for the official national recognition we have achieved that could only be obtained through affiliation with an organization such as EIA. We still continue to self-fund a number of activities (other IBIS Summits, teleconference calls) and special projects (such as ibischk3 development.) through additional contributions. BUDGET: INCOME IBIS Membership Dues $15,000 Other Income 1,000 Fees & Assessments EXPENSES Basis: ------------------------------ IBIS Budget Salaries and Benefits $9,000 Interest Expense Not Allocated Occupancy 610 Bad debts Not Allocated Depreciation 250 Printing 200 Postage 150 Freight & Delivery 100 Travel & Entertainment 2,000 Telephone 200 Meetings and Conference Exp. 2,000 Professional Services Direct Expense Memberships & Subscriptions Not Allocated Web Site Services Not Allocated Advertising & Promotions 500 Show Expenses (Deleted) Office Supplies & Misc. 700 ------- Total Exp. Before Corp. Alloc. 15,710 Corporate EIA 4,000 ------- Total Expenses 19,710 ------- Projected Loss 3,710 ------- Bob noted that the proposed budget projects a loss. We have already discussed this topic at the October 1, 1999 meeting and felt comfortable with a modest dues increase. Unlike previous years, a key difference in Year 2000 and beyond is that we will retain and carry over any profits in the IBIS account. (Up to now, it has been a "use it or lose it" arrangement.) Bob suggested we consider a dues increase to either $750 (break even) or $1000 (modest profit to fund some of the activities). Bob Haller commented on the fact that in several companies, a $1000 expense is the amount where more internal signatures are needed - causing more difficulty in authorizing the expenditure. After further discussion it was agreed that we will propose to the year 2000 dues to $750. Bob then indicated that based on the original IBIS Charter created when IBIS became part of EIA, dues increases require a vote of two-thirds of the members. In our case this would now be 21 members. This is more stringent than official EIA approval guidelines (approval by three forths of a margin from votes cast by a majority of members (3/4 of 17, or 13). Or we could require just a simple majority of members (17). In any case, since this is an issue regarding financial commitment, we need this proposal to be voted on and approved by a substantial part of the IBIS Open Forum Member Companies. Michael Cohen asked about the resolution of the discussion of IBIS Bylaws with EIA per the June 21, 1999 IBIS meeting. Bob noted that we plan to use the "escape clause" mechanism (noted in the October 1, 1999 Meeting Minutes) that support alternative modes of operation that already exist. Much of the EP-20 bylaw guidelines would substantially change the way we operate. The guidelines do not work well with our mode of operation of conducting frequent teleconference meetings and using public e-mail reflectors for conducting discussions. So we plan to comply by not changing our current mode of operation. After some more discussion Bob indicated that we will do our balloting on the proposed membership fee increase by polling the Member companies (primary and secondary representatives) by e-mail. We want to achieve a significant consensus - probably 17 to 21 votes as an indication of approval. Guy de Burgh will send out and tabulate the ballots. The deadline for e-mail vote will be November 18, 1999, just prior to the next IBIS teleconference meeting. Bob conducted a roll-call vote and we already recorded 8 affirmative votes and no negative votes on raising the IBIS Membership dues to $750 per year. AR - Guy de Burgh create a letter ballot to e-mail to members on dues increase to $750 and send it out to the IBIS Member companies. [Done] NEW IBIS OFFICER POSITIONS Bob Ross also indicated that creating new IBIS Officer positions is technically a Charter change requiring a similar consensus as above. So we will also send out a letter ballot for the new Postmaster position (already staffed by Matthew Flora) and the Webmaster position (already staffed by Syed Huq), as a formality. The four existing and two new positions are listed for reference: Position Responsibilities ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairperson Oversee all forum activities, preside at all general meetings. Finance authority. This person must be an employee of a Membership Company. Vice Chair Cover for chair and secretary in their absence, coordinate all public relations (press releases, media contacts). This person must be an employee of a Membership Company. Secretary Coordinate logistics of all meetings, take and publish meeting minutes within 10 days of meeting. [Delete this task since it is transferred to the Postmaster: Work with or act as file server sysop to maintain the reflector and on-line files.] This person does not need to be an employee of a Membership Company. Librarian Maintain the library of public IBIS models, including verifying authenticity and compliance before posting. This person does not need to be an employee of Membership Company. Webmaster Maintains the contents of the official EIA IBIS Open Forum Web site and Roster files under www.eia.org either directly or through contact with EIA staff. This person does not need to be an employee of a Membership Company. Postmaster Maintains the e-mail distribution lists and performs file server sysop activities for the on-line files on the IBIS site: www.eda.org/pub/ibis/. This person does not need to be an employee of a Membership Company. AR - Guy de Burgh create a letter ballot to e-mail to amend the charter to include the new Webmaster and Postmaster positions and send it out to IBIS member companies. [Done] COOKBOOK STATUS Stephen Peters had no report. IBIS MODEL REVIEW COMMITTEE DISCUSSION Matthew Flora reported that he recently sent out for review a model from Cimaron (an AMCC company). (Added after the meeting - Matthew also sent out earlier a model of a series switch from Fairchild Semiconductor for review.) Matthew Flora is looking for some more EDA companies to review models. (He has five so far and needs a replacement name for one of the companies.) Ross Pryor voluteered to help, but Bob Ross explained that the Model Review Committee is composed of EDA simulator vendors so that the review process could actually include simulation in a variety of simulators. It also would not have one semiconductor vendor review the models from another semiconductor vendor - a potentially sensitive issue for some vendors. (Bob thanked Ross for volunteering and hopes he will help in another area.) Bob and Matthew will work off line on getting some new Model Review Committee members. IBISCHK3 BUG REPORT STATUS Matthew Flora indicated that he just issued an updated BUG34 in compliance with the AR for specific suggestions on the conditions where Warning Messages should be issued. Since updated BUG34 has just been issued, Matthew wanted to defer the discussion to the next meeting AR - Matthew Flora issue a revised BUG34 to document the conditions where Warning messages are issued [Done]. CONNECTOR PROPOSAL STATUS Because Gus Panella needed to leave early, we moved the Connector Proposal Status discussion as the next discussion item. Bob Ross briefly summarized that since introduction of the Connector Specification proposal at the February 1, 1999 IBIS Summit Meeting, there has been no IBIS Open Forum action. The IBIS Open Forum was heavily involved in formal closure and ratification of IBIS Version 3.2. Since the Connector Specification was proposed as a separate document, it did not need to be considered while IBIS Version 3.2 was being considered. However, related documents have been uploaded under: http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/connector/ Gus Panella stated that there have been a few review comments. They have been incorporated into a revised version. One of the main comments dealt with defining and describing the matrix. Bob Haller asked whether cables are supported. Gus stated that the intention was to focus on just connectors. Bob Ross stated that he thought that using it for modeling cables was valid. However, the first release of the document does not include frequency dependent losses or skin effect losses. One of the other issues to consider is whether the format can be applied to the existing package model format. Bob Haller also asked about some other changes, and Gus reponded that the suggestions have been implemented in unreleased updates. Bob Ross suggested that we now plan Connector Specification discussion as an actual Agenda item. Gus indicated that he can participate in the next teleconference meeting. A new document may be available by that time. We need to look at it from a full Committee and broader EDA Vendor perspective to discover any implementation and usage issues. BIRD61 - ENHANCED CHARACTERIZATION OF RECEIVERS BIRD62 - ENHANCED CHARACTERIZATION OF RECEIVER THRESHOLDS (discussed First) BIRD63 - DOCUMENTATION OF RECEIVER SETUP AND HOLD TIMING CONDITIONS Stephen Peters reported no further progress on BIRD61, BIRD62 and BIRD63. We are still waiting for some possible behavioral input modeling proposals for BIRD61. Bob Ross indicated that there has been plenty of reflector discussion on BIRD61, and some general issues remain unresolved. There also may be some syntax detail issues regarding BIRD62 and BIRD63. However, the general concepts seem to be acceptable. All of these BIRDs need to be considered in the context of some alternative ideas for future extensions of IBIS that are now being discussed. BIRD64 - PACKAGE MODEL SELECTOR Arpad Muranyi introduced BIRD64 to deal with the fact that some components need several package models for analysis. A primary application would be to issue min and max package models to support corner analysis. Several people have already issued comments on the IBIS reflector. Most comments provide syntax variations but support the same functionality. Arpad initially started with formatting the [Package Model Selector] keyword similar to the [Model Selector] keyword format. However, he decided on a more simple approach that was not exactly compatible. Bob Ross commented that [Model Selector] was designed to simultaneously change the I/O buffer model for several pins, whereas the [Package Model Selector] would change the package model for just one [Component]. Stephen Peters stated that he supported the simpler approach. Arpad thought that the choice of format depended on what would be best for a GUI (or for automated processing). Bob summarized some choices available including those suggested on the IBIS reflector: 1. Do nothing. We already support different package configurations. This support requires issuing a different [Component] model for each package configuration. If we are dealing with only two or three variations, this may be acceptable. 2. [Package Model Selector] as in BIRD64 where the selection choices replace the [Package Model] keyword. 3. [Package Mode Selector] at higher level, similar to [Model Selector], where [Package Model] references the [Package Model Selector] by name, which in turn references the list of package models. 4. Extend [Package Model] from one call into a typ-min-max format rather than using [Package Model Selector]. We ended the discussion in order to move on to other Agenda items. BIRD65 - C_comp REFINEMENTS Arpad Muranyi also introduced BIRD65. BIRD65 provides detail by documenting how portions of C_comp can be connected the various power rails. Michael Cohen stated that the nomenclature was not clear. For example he did not realize that C_comp_pu was the portion of C_comp connected to the [Pullup Reference Voltage]. The overview definition is given in the introductory information, but is not stated in the actual replacement text proposed by BIRD65. Arpad stated that he clarify the C_comp elements in the proposed text. Bob Ross indicated that BIRD65 was proposed to support more accurate ground and power bounce analysis. The basic idea is seems sound. However, we may need to consider it in the context of some other alternative proposals that may accomplish the same objective. Arpad closed by noting that he is looking for IBIS reflector comments about the possibility of adding capacitance as a function of voltage tables. APPLICATION PROGRAM INTERFACE (API) DISCUSSION In the remaining time, Stephen Peters discussed the intent of the API. He stated that new device technologies and functions in devices often require new IBIS keywords and take time to be approved. In the mean time the actual structural model (such as a Spice model) could be used, but issue rapidly to support EDA Vendors. To prevent revealing intellectual property details, such a model could be issued as part of some executable code. Stephen stated that he has initiated a proposal to describe the interface to such an API. The major extension are to also include ground and power ports for some more detailed analysis. With a standardized interface, models could be issued in a timely manner as part of an executable. The draft proposal is currently being review internally. It does have implications concerning an evolution of IBIS and is temporarily designated as "IBIS-X". Stephen expects the proposal to be issued on the IBIS reflector early next week (week of November 1, 1999). NEXT MEETING: The next teleconference meeting will be on Friday, November 19, 1999 from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM. ============================================================================== NOTES IBIS CHAIR: Bob Ross (503) 685-0732, Fax (503) 685-4897 bob_ross@mentor.com Modeling Engineer, Mentor Graphics 8005 S.W. Boeckman Road, Wilsonville, OR 97070 VICE CHAIR: Stephen Peters (503) 264-4108, Fax: (503) 264-4515 sjpeters@ichips.intel.com Senior Hardware Engineer, Intel Corporation M/S JF1-209 2111 NE 25th Ave. Hillsboro, OR 97124-5961 SECRETARY: Guy de Burgh (805) 988-8250, Fax: (805) 988-8259 gdeburgh@viewlogic.com Senior Manager, Viewlogic Systems 1369 Del Norte Rd. Camarillo, CA 93010-8437 LIBRARIAN: Jon Powell (805) 988-8250, Fax: (805) 988-8259 jonp@qdt.com Senior Scientist, Viewlogic Systems 1369 Del Norte Rd. Camarillo, CA 93010 WEBMASTER: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Signal Integrity Engineer, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 POSTMASTER: Matthew Flora (425) 869-2320, Fax: (425) 881-1008 mbflora@hyperlynx.com Senior Engineer, HyperLynx, Inc. 114715 N.E. 95th Street Redmond, WA 98052 This meeting was conducted in accordance with the EIA Legal Guides and EIA Manual of Organization and Procedure. The following e-mail addresses are used: ibis-request@eda.org To join, change, or drop from either the IBIS Open Forum Reflector (ibis@eda.org), the IBIS Users' Group Reflector (ibis-users@eda.org) or both. State your request. ibis-info@eda.org To obtain general information about IBIS, to ask specific questions for individual response, and to inquire about joining the EIA-IBIS Open Forum as a full Member. ibis@eda.org To send a message to the general IBIS Open Forum Reflector. 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