DATE: 7/1/03 SUBJECT: June 27, 2003 EIA IBIS Open Forum Meeting Minutes VOTING MEMBERS AND 2003 PARTICIPANTS LIST: Ansoft Corporation (Eric Bracken) Apple Computer Kim Helliwell Applied Simulation Technology Fred Balistreri Cadence Design Lynne Green*, Lance Wang Cisco Systems Syed Huq, Michael LaBonte, Val Mandruson, Hung Pham, Todd Westerhoff Fairchild Semiconductor (Graham Connolly) Hitachi ULSI Systems Kazuyoshi Shoji Intel Corporation Stephen Peters*, Michael Mirmak*, Arpad Muranyi, Eric Magnusson LSI Logic Frank Gasparik* Matsushita (Panasonic) Atsuji Ito Mentor Graphics [Bob Ross], Ian Dodd, Guy de Burgh*, John Angulo*, Mike Donnelly, Weston Beal Micron Technology Randy Wolff* Molex Incorporated Gus Panella Motorola (Rick Kingen) National Semiconductor [Milt Schwartz], [Tim Coyle] NEC Electric Corporation (Itsuki Yamada) Philips Semiconductor (D.C. Sessions), Stephanie Goedecke Siemens (& Automotive) AG Eckhard Lenski, Michael Kindij, Burkhard Muller, Katja Koller, Andre Goerisch, Manfred Maurer, Bernard Unger, Amir Motamedi, Hartmut Ibowski, Gerald Bannert Signal Integrity Software Bob Haller, Barry Katz, Doug Burns Sigrity [Raj Raghuram] Synopsys Warren Wong, Edmund Cheng Texas Instruments Thomas Fisher Teraspeed Scott McMorrow, Tom Dagostino, Kevin Simpson, Bob Ross* Time Domain Analysis Systems Dima Smolyansky, Steve Corey Zuken (& Incases) Michael Schaeder, Ralf Bruening OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN 2003: Agilent Technologies Herbert Lage Brocade Frank Yuan, Yongrue Yu Conexant Gary Felker EADS CCR Alix de la Villeguerin EFM Ekkehard Miersch EMC Corporation Brian Arsenault, John Fernandez, Simba Julian Fraunhofer IZM Ege Engin Fujitsu Tadashi Arai GEIA (Chris Denham) Huawei Technologies (Jiang Xiang Zhong) Independent Kelly Green, Luca Giacotto Infineon Tech AG Christian Sporrer Marvell Semiconductor Itzik Peleg NetLogic Microsystems Eric Hsu North East Systems Associates Edward Sayre Plexus Joseph Socha Politechnico de Torino Igor Stievano Qlogic Larry Barnes Sintecs BV Hans Klos, Bob te Nijenhuis SiQual (Rob Hinz) Sun Microsystems Tim Coyle Via Technologies (Weber Chuang) Xilinx Susan Wu In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *. Principal members or other active members who have not attended are in parentheses. Participants who no longer are in the organization are in square brackets. Upcoming Meetings: The bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences are as follows: Date Bridge Number Reservation # Passcode July 18, 2003 1-916-356-2663 2 381-4012 All meetings are 8:00 AM to 9:55 AM Pacific Time. We try to have agendas out 7 days before each Open Forum, and meeting minutes out within 7 days after. When you call into the meeting, ask for the IBIS Open Forum hosted by Stephen Peters and give the reservation number and passcode. NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -------------------------------- MINUTES ----------------------------------- INTRODUCTIONS AND MEETING QUORUM No new introductions. CALL FOR PATENTS Michael Mirmak called for any patents or pending patents related to the IBIS Version 4.0 Standard. No companies declared a patent. MEMBERSHIP UPDATE AND TREASURER'S REPORT Michael Mirmak reported that based on the May ledger report from GEIA and e-mail confirmation of payment the current membership stands at 25 paid members. Michael noted that the "Voting members and 2003 participants list" at the top of the minutes will be updated to reflect the names of the companies that have not paid. The names of non-member companies that have not had a representative attend a meeting this year will also be removed. REVIEW OF MINUTES AND AR'S The May 30, 2003 minutes were approved without changes. The June 5, 2003 summit meeting minutes were approved without changes. ARs will be discussed during the meeting. MISCELLANY/ANNOUNCEMENTS Bob Ross noted that NCSU now has a beta version of the SPICE2IBIS3 application available for testing. Those interested in trying the beta version may address themselves directly to NCSU. PRESS AND WEB PAGE UPDATES Michael Mirmak reported that he asked Syed Huq to do an update of the IBIS roster to reflect the current membership list. In addition, Syed will send out a notice to all companies listed on the roster page to submit updates to the roster. Non-responding companies will be removed. NEW MODELS AVAILABLE, LIBRARY UPDATE No new models or library updates. OPENS FOR NEW ISSUES No new issues. INTERNATIONAL/EXTERNAL PROGRESS - IEC 62014-3 (ICEM) Integrated Circuit Electromagnetic Model Proposal (formerly, IEC 93/67/NP IBIS and EMC Simulation) No report. - JEDEC Activity Report. Nothing to report. DAC2003 SUMMIT REPORT Michael Mirmak asked for comments on the IBIS summit held at DAC. Stephen responded that the presentations and discussions were of high quality and positively received. He also noted that the logistics of the room, refreshments and luncheon presented no difficulties for the organizers or the participants. John Angulo observed that he had not yet received any reimbursement for Mentor's expenses for the summit. He will arrange for billing directly to the GEIA and estimates the total cost to be between $1500 and $1600. Lynne Green will check with Cadence and similarly arrange for GEIA billing for Cadence's contribution to the DAC Summit. DESIGNCON EAST 2003 SUMMIT REPORT Michael Mirmak asked for comments regarding DesignCon2003. Bob observed that IBIS had made good use of the opportunity to have a real presence at an event not normally part of the IBIS summit schedule. He added that the teleconference bridge was a positive addition and the extra involvement from those on-line was worth the absence of an IBIS booth on the event's display floor. In future, the Open Forum will revisit whether both a booth and a teleconference bridge provide returns on the required time and monetary investments for summits. Guy de Burgh requested that, as he now holds the booth, any request for the booth to be used at a summit be made to him as far in advance as possible. He will make tentative arrangements to bring the booth to DesignCon 2004. Michael thanked the participants and organizers from both Summits, including Cadence, Mentor and SiSoft, for their help in making the gatherings successful. DATE SUMMIT DISCUSSION Lynne Green raised the topic of planning for the DATE 2003 Summit in October. An IBIS Summit is tentatively planned for Tuesday, October 21, but specific locations and times have not yet been determined. Michael Mirmak accepted the action item to contact NESA regarding hosting and other logistics of a DATE Summit. Bob Ross suggested that, while October summits have traditionally been held on the East Coast of the US, the Open Forum should consider potential summit meeting opportunities overseas, particularly in Japan. IBIS VERSION 4.0 PARSER FUNDING AND STATUS Michael Mirmak reported that we have parser payments from eight companies. Unfortunately, one company had to decommit from funding, leaving us one short of our goal. Several officers are working to obtain other sources for parser finances. Stephen Peters reported that Atul Agarwal has completed adding version 4.0 features and is in the process of adding the bug fixes. Atul indicated that he will be able to add all bug fixes except BUG68, BUG73 and BUG78. Stephen suggested that we review these bugs and figure out how to incorporate fixes into the delivered code. Stephen noted that he expects Atul to send a beta copy of the code to the forum by the end of the month. The current alpha version of the parser has been compiled for several platforms (for Windows by John Angulo, for UNIX/Linux by Lynne Green) and checking continues by several members of the Open Forum. IBIS VERSION 4.1 DISCUSSION Bob Ross reported that he has posted a cleaned up text version of IBIS version 4.1 to the web. In addition, Arpad Muranyi has created a .pdf version that is also posted to the web. Both documents are available at: http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/wip/ There are also several minor editorial corrections that will be included. Stephen Peters will provide a list of suggested improvements to the Open Forum via the reflector. IBIS QUALITY COMMITTEE Lynne Green reported that the Quality Committee continues to meet every two weeks and is working on an updated quality checklist. Lynne also reported that the Quality Committe is preparing a BIRD related to IV currents which will be filed for consideration at the next Open Forum meeting. IBIS MODEL REVIEW COMMITTEE Lynne Green reported that models have been sent to the Committee from Lightspeed and Texas Instruments. These have been distributed to the Committee members. NEW ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES No new issues. IBIS FUTURES AND CONNECTOR WORKING GROUP REPORT No meetings have been held since the last Open Forum teleconference. Bob Ross proposed that this committee be disbanded, as its work is complete; new committees may be formed to address issues as needed. Without objection, the Open Forum accepted Bob's proposal and the Committee members were thanked for their contributions. IBIS ICM SPECIFICATION REVIEW Michael Mirmak reported that no feedback on the IBIS Interconnect Specification (ICM) had been received, though some comments for consideration in the longer term were noted at both summits. He proposed sending a message on behalf of the Open Forum to the IBIS and industry e-mail reflectors to request review of the specification and sample models. No objections were raised. BIRD74.4 - EMI Parameters Guy de Burgh reported that he had received substantial comments on the syntax of BIRD 74.4 from Bob Ross and others. These issues involved separating keywords from subparameters and including more details from the available documentation from the University of Missouri at Rolla. Consequently, Guy requested that any vote on the BIRD be deferred, pending his issuing of a corrected BIRD 74.5. IBISCHK3 & BUG TRACKING STATUS John Angulo reported that work is still in progress on BUG73, "Extreme Non-monotonic I-V Tables Cause End Point Test to Fail." John continues testing of the BUG73 example data with the latest beta parser, and will deliver all results to Atul. Bob Ross reiterated that the more complete the analysis of the parser and related bugs by the IBIS community is, the faster a quality parser will be made available to the industry. John also reported that he has submitted a BUG to address a potential issue with the placement of [Model Selector] relative to [Diff Pin] within a component. Having [Model Selector] occur after [Diff Pin] is accepted by the parser, but [Model Selector] occuring before [Diff Pin] causes an ambiguous warning. Bob Ross confirmed that he had received the BUG report and raised the possibility of an ambiguity in the IBIS specification between the scope of the [Component] keyword and the ordering of [Diff Pin] and [Model Selector]. Bob also suggested that the example IBIS text be shortened to only include the minimum data to illustrate the issue and pass the other parser rules. John agreed to resubmit an edited version of the report after checking the exact syntax of the specification regarding the scope of the keywords involved. Michael Mirmak closed the meeting. NEXT MEETINGS: The next teleconference meeting is scheduled for July 18, 2003 from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time. ============================================================================ NOTES IBIS CHAIR: Michael Mirmak (916) 356-4261, Fax: (916) 377-1046 michael.mirmak@intel.com Senior Analog Engineer, Intel Corporation M/S FM6-45 1900 Prairie City Rd. Folsom, CA 95630 VICE CHAIR: Lynne Green (425) 788-0412, Fax (425) 451-1871 lgreen@cadence.com Senior Modeling Engineer, Cadence Design Systems 320 120th Ave NE, Suite B-103, Bellevue, WA 98005-3016 SECRETARY: Randy Wolff (208) 363-1764, Fax: (208) 368-3475 rrwolff@micron.com Simulation Engineer, Micron Technology, Inc. 8000 S. Federal Way Mail Stop: 1-711 Boise, ID 83707-0006 LIBRARIAN: Roy Leventhal (847) 590-9398 roy.leventhal@ieee.org Consultant, Leventhal Design and Communications 1924 North Burke Drive Arlington Heights, Illinois 60004 WEBMASTER: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 POSTMASTER: John Angulo (425) 497-5077, Fax: (425) 881-1008 John_angulo@mentor.com Development Engineer, Mentor Graphics 14715 N.E. 95th Street, Suite 200 Redmond, WA 98052 This meeting was conducted in accordance with the EIA Legal Guides and EIA Manual of Organization and Procedure. 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