DATE: 11/23/05 SUBJECT: November 18, 2005 EIA IBIS Open Forum Meeting Minutes VOTING MEMBERS AND 2005 PARTICIPANTS Actel Prabhu Mohan Agere (Nirav Patel) AMD Wasim Ullah Ansoft Corporation Michael Brenneman Applied Simulation Technology Norio Matsui Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang*, [Donald Telian], Heiko Dudek, Shangli Wu, Dragoslav Milosevec, Ken Willis Cisco Systems Syed Huq*, Mike LaBonte, Todd Westerhoff, Zhiping Yang, Vinu Armumugham, Salman Jiva, Satish Pratapneni, Il-young Park, Sergio Camerlo, Phillipe Sochoux, Eddie Wu, Gurpreet Hundal, Jayanthi Natarajan AbdulRahman Rafiq Fluent (Chetan Desai) Freescale Jon Burnett Green Streak Programs Lynne Green* Hitachi ULSI Systems Kazuyoshi Shoji Huawei (Jiang Xiang Zhong) Integrated Circuit Systems (ICS) (Dan Clementi) Intel Corporation Michael Mirmak*, Arpad Muranyi*, Suresh Chandrasekhar LSI Logic Frank Gasparik, William Lau, Mike Jenkins, Reginald Cowley, Kusumakumari Matta Marvell Itzik Peleg* Mentor Graphics John Angulo*, Guy de Burgh, Ian Dodd*, Steven McKinney, Kim Owen, Stephane Rousseau Micron Technology Randy Wolff*, Paul Gregory, Bob Cox NEC Electronics Corporation Takeshi Watanabe, Lori Askew, Takuro Tsujikawa Panasonic Atsuji Ito Samtec [Otto Bennig] Siemens AG Eckhard Lenski*, Katja Koller, Manfred Maurer, Heinz Ibowski, Wolfgang Rohmer, Klaus Huebner Michael Kindij Siemens Medical David Lieby Signal Integrity Software Robert Haller, Douglas Burns, Barry Katz, Mike Mayer Sigrity Sam Chitwood, Jing Ting, Raymond Chen Jiaguan Fang, Teo Yatman, Michael Leins Silego (Joe Froniewski) Silicon Image (Ook Kim) STMicroelectronics Antonio Girardi Synopsys Warren Wong, Andy Tai Teraspeed Consulting Group Bob Ross*, Scott McMorrow, Tom Dagostino Texas Instruments (Steve Spencer), Otis Gorley Xilinx Ray Anderson, Sanjay Mehta Zuken Michael Schaeder, Ralf Bruening OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN 2005: Altera Khalid Ansari Bayside Design Kevin Roselle CelsioniX Kellee Crisafulli Dell Aubrey Sparkman EMC Brian Arsenault, Daniel Nilsson, Jason Pritchard, Jinhua Chen Enterasys Networks Fabrizio Zanella EPFL Alain Vachoux Fujitsu Siemens Computers Martin Ramme GEIA (Chris Denham) Infineon Technologies AG Thomas Steinecke, Minea Gospodinova, Amir Motamedi, Yann Zinsius, Christian Sporrer, Radovan Vuletic INSA Toulouse Etienne Sicard JMD International Joe Socha KAW Kazuhiko Kusunoki Leventhal Design Roy Leventhal Lynguent Andrew Levy NetLogic Eric Hsu Nokia Erno Lahteenmati, Tapani von Rauner North Carolina State Univ. Ambrish Varma Politecnio di Torino Igor Stievano Si2 Sumit DasGupta Silicon Bandwidth [Kim Helliwell] Sun Microsystems Gustavo Blando Time Domain Analysis Systems Dima Smolyansky, Steve Corey Western Digital Mohammad Ali Independent Bernhard Unger (Siemens retired), Kim Helliwell In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *. Principal members or other active members who have not attended are in parentheses. Participants who no longer are in the organization are in square brackets. UPCOMING MEETINGS The bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences are as follows: Date Telephone Number Bridge # Passcode December 6, 2005 Asian IBIS Summit, No teleconference Bridge December 16, 2005 1-916-356-2663 4 574-7106 All meetings are 8:00 AM to 9:55 AM US Pacific Time. Meeting agendas are typically distributed seven days before each Open Forum. Minutes are typically distributed within seven days of the corresponding meeting. When calling into the meeting, provide the bridge number and passcode at the automated prompts. If asked by an operator, please request to join the IBIS Open Forum hosted by Michael Mirmak. For international dial-in numbers, please contact Michael Mirmak. NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. --------------------------------MINUTES----------------------------------- INTRODUCTIONS AND MEETING QUORUM No new participants. CALL FOR PATENTS Michael Mirmak called for any patents or pending patents related to the IBIS Version 3.2, 4.0, 4.1, or ICM 1.1 specifications. No patents were declared. MEMBERSHIP UPDATE AND TREASURER'S REPORT Michael Mirmak reported that membership has increased to 32 members after confirming that a partial-year payment was received by STMicroelectronics. We have had an additional ICMCHK1 parser purchase from Mentor Graphics. It looks like we will end the year $100 in the black on the budget. REVIEW OF MINUTES AND ARS Michael Mirmak reviewed the minutes of the October 28, 2005 IBIS Open Forum teleconference. The minutes were approved without change. PRESS AND WEB PAGE UPDATES Syed Huq reported that ICEM links were not working. They have been updated. Version 4 of the Cookbook was added on the Free Tools page. Syed is looking into arranging things on the website to make it easier to navigate. MAILING LIST ADMINISTRATION Bob Ross reported that everything is running normally. NEW MODELS AVAILABLE, LIBRARY UPDATE Lance Wang reported that he updated the links recently to fix some errors. No new links have been added. MISCELLANY/ANNOUNCEMENTS Michael Mirmak mentioned that the next meeting is not on the normal three week schedule due to scheduling conflicts. OPENS FOR NEW ISSUES None. INTERNATIONAL/EXTERNAL PROGRESS There continue to be two pending standards under consideration by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) under the technical committee TC47. Each of these standards have links back to IBIS. We are the appropriate committee to review and comment on these documents. The documents are available for technical review from Bob Ross. More information can be found at the following url: http://www.iec.ch The two standards are: IEC62404 I/O Interface Model for Integrated Circuits (IMIC) as 47A/704/CD (committee draft). This is a competing standard with IBIS and is an enhancement to spice languages. Models of Integrated Circuits for EMI Behavioral Simulation 47A/719/NP (new work proposal). This is a follow on to ICEM (ICEM is 62014-3). IEC TC47/SC47A held some working group meetings in Austin, Texas at the Freescale Semiconductor facility on October 17-19 for WG9 and October 20-21 for WG2. These meetings included IMIC and ICEM advances and had international participation. Bob Ross had no update on the outcome of these meetings. EMC Compo 2005 (5th International Workshop on Electromagnetic Compatibility of Integrated Circuits) is being held in Munich, Germany on November 28-30, 2005. Modeling topics include topics of interest to the IBIS community. More information can be found at the following url: http://www.emccompo2005.org/ EIA/ANSI APPROVAL ACTIVITIES Randy Wolff reported that the ICM 1.1 specification was officially approved as a GEIA standard on October 7, 2005. The standard was named GEIA-STD-0001. IBIS open forum members received an email from GEIA with an official copy attached for their use. Additional copies can be purchased through the GEIA store. The standard has now begun the ANSI approval process. This will take between 1-2 months. The url for the GEIA store is: http://webstore.ansi.org/ansidocstore/subscriptions/dept.asp?dept_id=3119 Michael Mirmak mentioned that GEIA had encouraged us to turn the IBIS Cookbook version 4 into an engineering bulletin. This would make the cookbook an official GEIA document that could be sold on the GEIA website. Syed Huq asked about losing our rights to download a free copy of the cookbook from our website. Michael responded that we consider the copy on our website to be a draft, while the copy on the GEIA website would be the official release including the GEIA front page. SUMMITS - Asian IBIS Summit December 6, 2005 is the official date of the Summit. It will be held at the Crown Plaza Hotel in Shenzhen, China near Hong Kong. The steering committee is headed by Jiang Xiang Zhong of Huawei. The financial sponsors include Sigrity, Huawei, Cadence, Mentor, and SiSoft. Bob Ross reported that they are in the final stages of preparation. Program booklets will be printed next Monday that will include all the paper presentations. Bob plans to make the presentations publicly available on the IBIS website after the meeting. The most recent sign up is about 70-80 people, but over 100 people may attend. They plan to print out 200 copies of the booklet. Gift bags are also being assembled. Vendor tables are being placed outside of the meeting room. - DesignCon The DesignCon Summit will be held either February 6, 7, 8, or 9 2006 in Santa Clara, California. Michael Mirmak reported that there are contracts ready to be signed. Syed Huq mentioned that there are three-hour long training classes at DesignCon on Monday, and one is a VHDL/IBIS 4.1 class. He asked if we could be flexible on scheduling. Michael mentioned that we could advertise the IBIS Summit in the training session. Syed said that scheduling the meeting on Tuesday would allow for potentially less conflicts, since the classes on Tuesday are only one hour long. Bob Ross felt that Thursday would be a better second choice if Monday does not work out. Michael will ask the IEC about any difficulties with moving the IBIS Summit date. Discussions on finalizing the day were planned to take place offline. The first call for papers/participation should go out shortly. - DATE Bob Ross mentioned that Ralf Bruening is in charge of organizing the DATE summit. Bob asked Ralf recently to determine the date of the summit. Sponsorship opportunities for the Asian IBIS Summit, DesignCon, and DATE are still available, with sponsors receiving free mentions in the minutes, agenda, and other announcements. IBIS QUALITY COMMITTEE Bob Ross reported that the committee came up with another five or six BUG reports to introduce other caution statements. The link to the quality committee checklist is at: http://www.ibis-information.org/quality_wip/ IBIS MODEL REVIEW COMMITTEE Lynne Green reported that no new models have come in. She has been working with one company to clarify their extraction of V-t curves. FUTURES AND COOKBOOK COMMITTEES Michael Mirmak reported that there is no activity on the cookbook. The futures group has been meeting every Thursday. Discussions have centered around BIRD100. Recent committee material is stored at: http://www.ibis-information.org/futures/ MACROMODELING LIBRARY COMMITTEE Arpad Muranyi reported that they are working with various tool vendors to work out some bugs. Progress is being made. Committee material can be found at the following url: http://www.ibis-information.org/macromodel_wip/ NEW ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES None. BIRD97.2: GATE MODULATION EFFECT Arpad Muranyi reported that he received an email from Antonio Girardi in the last few minutes. Arpad will review this and report at the next meeting. BIRD98: GATE MODULATION EFFECT (TABLE FORMAT) See BIRD97.2 for discussion related to BIRD98. BIRD100: ALLOW ANALOG-ONLY *-AMS MODEL TERMINALS Ian Dodd reported that currently the multilingual extensions support Spice and Verilog-AMS and VHDL-AMS. When you use the AMS languages, the connections are defined as a mixture of analog and digital signals. He thinks it is important to support the analog-only versions of the Verilog-AMS and VHDL-AMS languages. The BIRD will add support for the analog portion of the Verilog-AMS and VHDL-AMS languages. The EDA tools will be required to add the proper A-to-D and D-to-A converters to support use of these languages. Ian would like to see this BIRD integrated into the IBIS 4.2 specification. Some discussion ensued on the impact of BIRD100 on [External Model] versus [External Circuit]. OPTIONS FOR NEXT IBIS VERSION DISCUSSION Michael Mirmak gave a quick overview of his presentation on the future direction of the IBIS specification. He detailed the various BIRDs that are approved and under discussion. The dilemma is deciding where each of the BIRDs go. He mentioned that there are three specification release options. He summarized pros and cons to each of the three options. He talked about the recommendation that came out of the Futures group. This was to close out IBIS 4.2 with clarification BIRDs only and submit this specification for EIA/ANSI standardization, then work on the IBIS 5.0 specification. Bob Ross suggested that we add BIRD88.3 (parser update not necessary) and BIRD93.1 (parser update trivial) to the list of 4.2 release upgrades, as originally intended. The futures committee did not specifically agree on these BIRDs. Michael's presentation can be found at the following url: http://www.eda.org/ibis/futures/ibis-future-plans-111705.pdf IBISCHK4 BUG STATUS John Angulo gave an update on BUG91. John created a demo model for demonstration of the BUG. John agreed with the recommendation of the BUG being an enhancement request. The fix for the BUG was agreed upon to be adding an error message to the parser and not change any of the code that checks I-V/V-t curve mismatch. ICMCHK1 BUG STATUS No report. NEW TECHNICAL ISSUES None. NEXT MEETING The next meeting is the Asian IBIS Summit in Shenzhen, China on Tuesday, December 6, 2005. The next IBIS Open Forum teleconference will be held December 16, 2005 from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM US Pacific Time. ============================================================================ NOTES IBIS CHAIR: Michael Mirmak (916) 356-4261, Fax: (916) 377-1046 michael.mirmak@intel.com Senior Analog Engineer, Intel Corporation FM6-45 1900 Prairie City Rd. Folsom, CA 95630 VICE CHAIR: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 SECRETARY: Randy Wolff (208) 363-1764, Fax: (208) 368-3475 rrwolff@micron.com Simulation Engineer, Micron Technology, Inc. 8000 S. Federal Way Mail Stop: 01-711 Boise, ID 83707-0006 LIBRARIAN: Lance Wang (978) 262-6685, Fax: (978) 262-6363 lwang@cadence.com Senior Member, Technical Staff, Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 WEBMASTER: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 POSTMASTER: Bob Ross (503) 246-8048, Fax : (503) 239-4400 bob@teraspeed.com Staff Scientist, Teraspeed Consulting Group 10238 SW Lancaster Road Portland, OR 97219 This meeting was conducted in accordance with the GEIA Legal Guides and GEIA Manual of Organization and Procedure. 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