DATE: September 19, 2006 SUBJECT: September 15, 2006 EIA IBIS Open Forum Minutes GEIA BALLOT ELIGIBILITY (Must have attended 2 of the last 3 meetings, including Summits) Member GEIA Eligible (A = Active) -2 -1 Current Meeting ---------------------------------------------------------------- Apache Design Solutions Cadence A X X Cisco A X X Green Streak Programs X Intel A X X X LSI Logic X Mentor Graphics A X X X Micron Technology A X X Siemens AG X Teraspeed Consulting Group A X X X Texas Instruments X VOTING MEMBERS AND 2006 PARTICIPANTS Agere (Nirav Patel) Agilent Sanjeev Gupta, Nilesh Kamdar AMD [Wasim Ullah], Tadashi Arai Apache Design Solutions Ji Zheng Applied Simulation Technology Fred Balistreri Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang Cisco Systems Syed Huq*, Mike LaBonte, AbdulRahman Rafiq, Pedo Miran, Salman Jiva, Gurpreet Hundal, Todd Westerhoff Fluent (Chetan Desai) Freescale (Jon Burnett) Green Streak Programs Lynne Green* Hitachi ULSI Systems Kazuyoshi Shoji Integrated Circuit Systems (ICS) (Dan Clementi) Intel Corporation Michael Mirmak*, Arpad Muranyi, Stephen Peters, Vishram Pandit LSI Logic Frank Gasparik, Kim Helliwell, Praveen Soora Mentor Graphics John Angulo*, Ian Dodd*, Gary Pratt, John Shields, Simon Vines, [Guy de Burgh] Micron Technology Randy Wolff* NEC Electronics Corporation Takeshi Watanabe Samtec (Corey Kimble) Siemens AG Eckhard Lenski, Manfred Maurer, Katja Koller, Klaus Huebner, Heinz-Hartmut Ibowski, Flavio Maggioni, Roberto Preatoni Siemens Medical [David Lieby] Signal Integrity Software Barry Katz, Douglas Burns, Mike Mayer Walter Katz, Kevin Fisher Sigrity Sam Chitwood, Raymond Chen Silego (Joe Froniewski) STMicroelectronics (Antonio Girardi) Synopsys Andy Tai, Ted Mido Teraspeed Consulting Group Bob Ross* Texas Instruments Otis Gorley, Richard Ward Toshiba Yasumasa Kondo, Yoshishiro Hamaji Motochika Okano Xilinx (Ray Anderson) ZTE (Shunlin Zhu) Zuken Michael Schaeder, Ralf Bruening OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN 2006: Actel (Prabhu Mohan), Ann Lau Altera Khalid Ansari, David Lieby Amkor Technology Nozad Karim Ansoft Corporation Michael Brenneman Ashenden Designs Peter Ashenden Apple Computer [Zhiping Yang] Betty TV Stephanie Goedecke Bosch Ingo Doerr, Jurgen Hasch Cybernet Systems (KAW) Kazuhiko Kusunoki, Azusa Harada Toshiyo Saito, Keiji Soyama EFM Ekkehard Miersch Dell Aubrey Sparkman Force10 Networks Robert Badal Free Electron Software Al Davis GEIA (Chris Denham) Huawei Technologies (Xiangzhong Jiang) IBM Lance Thompson Infineon Radovan Vuletic, Minka Gospodinova Christian Sporrer, Amir Motamedi JEITA Atshushi Ishikawa Leventhal Design Roy Leventhal Lynguent Andrew Levy Marvell (Itzik Peleg) NCSU Paul Franzon Panasonic Atsuji Ito Philips Herve Menager Politecnico di Torino Igor Stievano Rambus Nirmal Jain Samsung Heeseok Lee, Il Seong Silicon Image (Ook Kim) SimLab Heiko Grubrich Vectronix AG Luca Giacotto In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *. Principal members or other active members who have not attended are in parentheses. Participants who no longer are in the organization are in square brackets. UPCOMING MEETINGS The bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences are as follows: Date Telephone Number Bridge # Passcode October 6, 2006 1-916-356-2663 3 512-1903 All meetings are 8:00 AM to 9:55 AM US Pacific Time. Meeting agendas are typically distributed seven days before each Open Forum. Minutes are typically distributed within seven days of the corresponding meeting. When calling into the meeting, provide the bridge number and passcode at the automated prompts. If asked by an operator, please request to join the IBIS Open Forum hosted by Michael Mirmak. For international dial-in numbers, please contact Michael Mirmak. NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. --------------------------------MINUTES----------------------------------- INTRODUCTIONS AND MEETING QUORUM No new participants. CALL FOR PATENTS Michael Mirmak called for any patents or pending patents related to the IBIS Version 3.2, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, or ICM 1.1 specifications. No patents were declared. MEMBERSHIP UPDATE AND TREASURER'S REPORT Michael Mirmak reported that we have received a new request for an ICM parser purchase. We are well over our revenue target for the year. We are expecting some invoicing from the DAC Summit. A couple of memberships may still be in negotiation. There was some discussion on how to handle the extra revenue. One idea was to spend it on parser development. REVIEW OF MINUTES AND ARS Michael Mirmak reviewed the minutes of the August 25, 2006 IBIS Open Forum teleconference. Michael mentioned that the August 25 minutes contain several "fixes" to the summit minutes, and that this set of minutes was cross-posted with the summit minutes. The minutes were approved without changes. WEB PAGE UPDATES Syed Huq reported that he is having problems with GEIA on URL issues. He is unable to get the Chinese IBIS Summit announcement link working. Minor updates were also made to the roster page. Michael Mirmak took the AR to alert Chris Denham to the problem. MAILING LIST ADMINISTRATION No update. NEW MODELS AVAILABLE, LIBRARY UPDATE No update. PRESS UPDATE Bob Ross noted that in the September 1 issue of EDN magazine, there is a column by Bonnie Baker of TI that mentions Spice and IBIS models. The article can be found at the following url: http://www.edn.com/article/CA6363901.html MISCELLANY/ANNOUNCEMENTS None. OPENS FOR NEW ISSUES None. INTERNATIONAL/EXTERNAL PROGRESS The Electrical Performance of Electronic Packaging (EPEP) conference is October 23-25, 2006 in Scottsdale, Arizona. There are sometimes presentations related to IBIS at this conference. More information on the conference can be found at the following url: http://www.epep.org/ EIA/ANSI APPROVAL ACTIVITIES Randy Wolff had no new news to report on the status of the IBIS 4.2 Specification moving on to the ANSI approval process. Bob Ross pointed out that GEIA did send out to committee members a link to the official document approved as GEIA standard EIA-656-B on September 1, 2006. SUMMITS - China Summit The China summit date is finalized as Friday, October 27 in Shanghai at the Radisson Hotel Shanghai New World. Huawei is the primary sponsor, with Ansoft, Cadence Design Systems, Intel, Mentor Graphics, Signal Integrity Software (SiSoft), Sigrity and Synopsys as co-sponsors. The 4th China Summit announcement went out recently. The China summit presentation schedule is full. Presentation materials for the China Summit need to be submitted to Bob Ross and Lance Wang within the next two weeks to give ample time for the presentation to be printed in the conference book. - Japan Summit The Japan IBIS Summit will take place Tuesday, October 31 in Tokyo at the JEITA offices. The summit is planned from 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM followed by a separate JEITA meeting from 3:00 PM to 6:00 PM. JEITA is the primary sponsor, with Cybernet Systems and Synopsys co-sponsoring the event. The 3rd Japan Summit announcement went out recently. The deadline is October 20 for final presentation submittal. It is preferred that the presentation materials be in English. Bob Ross is expecting closure from the last sponsor for the Japan Summit shortly. - Other Events No update. Sponsorship opportunities for the China and the Japan IBIS summits are available, with sponsors receiving free mentions in the minutes, agenda, and other announcements. Contact the IBIS Board for further details. IBIS QUALITY TASK GROUP Bob Ross reported that the checklist numbering has been revised, and a new checklist will be issued soon. The next meeting will be September 26. Lynne Green mentioned finding some broken links to quality documents. Lynne took the AR to send Mike Labonte a note about this. The link to the quality task group checklist is at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/quality_wip/ IBIS MODEL REVIEW TASK GROUP Lynne Green mentioned that no models have come in within the last month, but she has advertised the model review service on the reflector. She mentioned a new member from SiSoft joined. ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY MODELING TASK GROUP Michael Mirmak reported for Arpad Muranyi that all the notifications were filed with GEIA to officially start this task group. The task group has been discussing C-based API vs. AMS approaches for signal based versus channel based simulations. Also, there has been traffic on the reflector regarding an AMS approach to peak distortion analysis written by Arpad. A complete set of the SystemVision project files is available for download. Task group material can be found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/macromodel_wip/ AD HOC TASK GROUPS Michael Mirmak mentioned that he is still soliciting for people to head up some new task groups. NEW ISSUES Michael Mirmak mentioned that the BIRD list on the IBIS website does not list at the top level which version of the specification the BIRD was included nor for what version it is pending. He proposed adding this to the webpage. Bob Ross agreed that adding another column would be a good addition to this page. BIRD97.2: GATE MODULATION EFFECT Michael Mirmak mentioned that work related to this BIRD may be continued in the Advanced Technology Modeling task group. BIRD98: GATE MODULATION EFFECT (TABLE FORMAT) See BIRD97.2 for discussion related to BIRD98. IBISCHK4 BUG STATUS No new BUGs have been filed. There are only 3 BUGs of significant interest, and one is severe and would be the best candidate for spending money on parser development to fix. Bob Ross mentioned that Jon Powell may work on this BUG fix. ICMCHK1 BUG STATUS Michael Mirmak reported that a BUG filing was received in the last week. It is related to use of the Model_pinmap keyword. The parser crashes when Model_pinmap is empty in a file. Michael suggested it be filed as severe, high, and to-be-fixed. Lynne Green mentioned that Kelly Green plans to fix this BUG. NEW TECHNICAL ISSUES Michael Mirmak noted that pending issues are gate modulation, ICM issues to clarify ports versus terminals, ICM links to Touchstone, ICM to IBIS links, C-based API or AMS alternatives for Multi GHz and high bit count simulations, and Agilent allowing IBIS to help create a standardized version of Touchstone. NEXT MEETING The next IBIS Open Forum teleconference will be held October 6, 2006 from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM US Pacific Time. ============================================================================ NOTES IBIS CHAIR: Michael Mirmak (916) 356-4261, Fax: (916) 377-3788 michael.mirmak@intel.com Server Platform Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Corporation FM5-79 1900 Prairie City Rd. Folsom, CA 95630 VICE CHAIR: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 SECRETARY: Randy Wolff (208) 363-1764, Fax: (208) 368-3475 rrwolff@micron.com SI Modeling Manager, Micron Technology, Inc. 8000 S. Federal Way Mail Stop: 01-711 Boise, ID 83707-0006 LIBRARIAN: Lance Wang (978) 262-6685, Fax: (978) 262-6363 lwang@cadence.com Senior Member, Technical Staff, Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 WEBMASTER: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 POSTMASTER: Bob Ross (503) 246-8048, Fax : (503) 239-4400 bob@teraspeed.com Staff Scientist, Teraspeed Consulting Group 10238 SW Lancaster Road Portland, OR 97219 This meeting was conducted in accordance with the GEIA Legal Guides and GEIA Manual of Organization and Procedure. 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