DATE: October 10, 2006 SUBJECT: October 6, 2006 EIA IBIS Open Forum Minutes GEIA BALLOT ELIGIBILITY (Must have attended 2 of the last 3 meetings, including Summits) Member GEIA Eligible (A = Active) -2 -1 Current Meeting ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cadence A X X Cisco A X X Green Streak Programs A X X Intel A X X X LSI Logic X Mentor Graphics A X X X Micron Technology A X X X Siemens AG A X X Teraspeed Consulting Group A X X X Texas Instruments X VOTING MEMBERS AND 2006 PARTICIPANTS Agere (Nirav Patel) Agilent Sanjeev Gupta, Nilesh Kamdar AMD [Wasim Ullah], Tadashi Arai Apache Design Solutions Ji Zheng Applied Simulation Technology Fred Balistreri Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang* Cisco Systems Syed Huq, Mike LaBonte*, AbdulRahman Rafiq, Pedo Miran, Salman Jiva, Gurpreet Hundal, Todd Westerhoff Fluent (Chetan Desai) Freescale (Jon Burnett) Green Streak Programs Lynne Green* Hitachi ULSI Systems Kazuyoshi Shoji Integrated Circuit Systems (ICS) (Dan Clementi) Intel Corporation Michael Mirmak*, Arpad Muranyi*, Stephen Peters, Vishram Pandit LSI Logic Frank Gasparik, Kim Helliwell, Praveen Soora Mentor Graphics John Angulo*, Ian Dodd*, Gary Pratt, John Shields, Simon Vines, [Guy de Burgh] Micron Technology Randy Wolff* NEC Electronics Corporation Takeshi Watanabe Samtec (Corey Kimble) Siemens AG Eckhard Lenski*, Manfred Maurer, Katja Koller, Klaus Huebner, Heinz-Hartmut Ibowski, Flavio Maggioni, Roberto Preatoni Siemens Medical [David Lieby] Signal Integrity Software Barry Katz, Douglas Burns, Mike Mayer Walter Katz, Kevin Fisher Sigrity Sam Chitwood, Raymond Chen Silego (Joe Froniewski) STMicroelectronics (Antonio Girardi) Synopsys Andy Tai, Ted Mido Teraspeed Consulting Group Bob Ross* Texas Instruments Otis Gorley*, Richard Ward Toshiba Yasumasa Kondo, Yoshishiro Hamaji Motochika Okano Xilinx (Ray Anderson) ZTE (Shunlin Zhu) Zuken Michael Schaeder, Ralf Bruening OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN 2006: Actel (Prabhu Mohan), Ann Lau Altera Khalid Ansari, David Lieby Amkor Technology Nozad Karim Ansoft Corporation Michael Brenneman Ashenden Designs Peter Ashenden Apple Computer [Zhiping Yang] Betty TV Stephanie Goedecke Bosch Ingo Doerr, Jurgen Hasch Cybernet Systems (KAW) Kazuhiko Kusunoki, Azusa Harada Toshiyo Saito, Keiji Soyama EFM Ekkehard Miersch Dell Aubrey Sparkman Force10 Networks Robert Badal Free Electron Software Al Davis GEIA (Chris Denham) Huawei Technologies (Xiangzhong Jiang) IBM Lance Thompson Infineon Radovan Vuletic, Minka Gospodinova Christian Sporrer, Amir Motamedi JEITA Atshushi Ishikawa Leventhal Design Roy Leventhal Lynguent Andrew Levy Marvell (Itzik Peleg) NCSU Paul Franzon Panasonic Atsuji Ito Philips Herve Menager Politecnico di Torino Igor Stievano Rambus Nirmal Jain Samsung Heeseok Lee, Il Seong Silicon Image (Ook Kim) SimLab Heiko Grubrich Vectronix AG Luca Giacotto In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *. Principal members or other active members who have not attended are in parentheses. Participants who no longer are in the organization are in square brackets. UPCOMING MEETINGS The bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences are as follows: Date Telephone Number Bridge # Passcode October 27, 2006 China IBIS Summit - no teleconference bridge October 31, 2006 Japan IBIS Summit - no teleconference bridge November 17, 2006 1-916-356-2663 3 512-1903 All meetings are 8:00 AM to 9:55 AM US Pacific Time. Meeting agendas are typically distributed seven days before each Open Forum. Minutes are typically distributed within seven days of the corresponding meeting. When calling into the meeting, provide the bridge number and passcode at the automated prompts. If asked by an operator, please request to join the IBIS Open Forum hosted by Michael Mirmak. For international dial-in numbers, please contact Michael Mirmak. NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. --------------------------------MINUTES----------------------------------- INTRODUCTIONS AND MEETING QUORUM No new participants. CALL FOR PATENTS Michael Mirmak called for any patents or pending patents related to the IBIS Version 3.2, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, or ICM 1.1 specifications. No patents were declared. MEMBERSHIP UPDATE AND TREASURER'S REPORT Michael Mirmak reported that our membership stands at 30 members. Cadence purchased an ICM parser license recently, and by next week we should have another IBISCHK4 parser license purchased. This extra revenue from two extra members above 28 members and the parser purchases puts us at $4000 over budget (extra revenue). Bob Ross also mentioned that we may have more company joins before the end of the year. Michael requested that we devote more time later in the meeting to discuss what we do with the extra money. REVIEW OF MINUTES AND ARS Michael Mirmak reviewed the minutes of the September 15, 2006 IBIS Open Forum teleconference. The minutes were approved without changes. WEB PAGE UPDATES Micahel Mirmak reported for Syed Huq that mostly minor changes were made to the events page. MAILING LIST ADMINISTRATION No update. NEW MODELS AVAILABLE, LIBRARY UPDATE No update. Lance Wang mentioned that he did reformat the model page a while ago. PRESS UPDATE Bob Ross noted that the thesis from Paul Fernando of NCSU is now downloadable. Paul did work related to the macro library. His thesis is entitled "Adding scalability to IBIS by using AMS languages." The thesis can be found at the following url: http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/theses/available/etd-03162006-145438/ MISCELLANY/ANNOUNCEMENTS None. OPENS FOR NEW ISSUES New issues to be discussed include the date for our next teleconference meeting and how to handle our budget surplus. INTERNATIONAL/EXTERNAL PROGRESS The Electrical Performance of Electronic Packaging (EPEP) conference is October 23-25, 2006 in Scottsdale, Arizona. There are IBIS sessions and tutorials, including one from Gary Pratt on IBIS4.1 AMS modeling. More information on the conference can be found at the following url: http://www.epep.org/ Michael Mirmak reported that the IEEE VHDL-AMS reballot for 2006 just closed last Friday. There was only one negative vote and there were many comments to address. Some comments from Michael and Arpad Muranyi were submitted that relate to IBIS committee issues. Also, the IEEE-P1076c standard being balloted by the VHDL committee closes in early November. This ballot proposes a simulation runtime API. EIA/ANSI APPROVAL ACTIVITIES Randy Wolff mentioned that Michael Mirmak had received an email from Chris Denham recently. Chris encouraged us to prepare a press release to be issued when the IBIS 4.2 standard completes the ANSI approval process. Michael is working on this. SUMMITS - China Summit The China summit date is finalized as Friday, October 27 in Shanghai at the Radisson Hotel Shanghai New World. Huawei is the primary sponsor, with Ansoft, Cadence Design Systems, Intel, Mentor Graphics, Signal Integrity Software (SiSoft), Sigrity and Synopsys as co-sponsors. Michael Mirmak reported that all presentation material has been gathered, and the presentation booklets are being prepared. All payments have been taken care of, and a summit gift is also ready. Bob Ross said that 9 people from the US are attending. In the next two weeks, Bob will need to finalize the participants list. There will be 120-200 people. Also, he will communicate the agenda to presenters, so they know they only have 20 minutes for their presentation. There are 13 presentations and no time for slippage in the schedule. He also will communicate about vendor tables. - Japan Summit The Japan IBIS Summit will take place Tuesday, October 31 in Tokyo at the JEITA offices. The summit is planned from 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM followed by a separate JEITA meeting from 3:00 PM to 6:00 PM. JEITA is the primary sponsor, with ATE Service Corp. (Sigrity), Cadence Design Systems, Cybernet Systems, Mentor Graphics, and Synopsys co-sponsoring the event. The deadline is October 20 for final presentation submittal. There will be no conference book, but presentations will be available online. Signups are at 30 right now with room for 50 participants. 8 presentations are lined up so far. - Other Events The committee will start DesignCon 2007 summit planning after the Asian summits are finished. Sponsorship opportunities for the China and the Japan IBIS summits are available, with sponsors receiving free mentions in the minutes, agenda, and other announcements. Contact the IBIS Board for further details. IBIS QUALITY TASK GROUP MIke Labonte reported that they updated their webpage. Also they had a new member join from Xilinx. They are still making progress on the quality list update. The link to the quality task group checklist is at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/quality_wip/ IBIS MODEL REVIEW TASK GROUP Lynne Green reported that a new model came in this week from Canada. She checked it and sent it out to the rest of the committee. She mentioned not seeing models from Asia, and Michael Mirmak mentioned that he can advertise the committee's services during the Asian IBIS summits. ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY MODELING TASK GROUP Arpad Muranyi reported the group is debating the API proposal, and they are finally starting to make progress in the discussion. Arpad mentioned that he had seen the information from Michael Mirmak about the API ballot related to VHDL-AMS, and he will look into this further. Task group material can be found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/macromodel_wip/ AD HOC TASK GROUPS Michael Mirmak sent to the reflector list a request for members to join an ad hoc group to cover the following topics: 1) ICM-IBIS link BIRD 2) standardization of Touchstone(r) 3) improvements to Touchstone(r) (frequency-dependent impedance references; expanded maximum # of ports) 4) clarification to ICM-Touchstone(r) interface (ports including references vs. terminals) The first meeting will be in two weeks. A second ad hoc group may be started to deal with user-defined measurements. NEW ISSUES None. BIRD97.2: GATE MODULATION EFFECT Arpad Muranyi mentioned that his last communications with Antonio Gerardi were hopeful for at least a partial solution. Michael Mirmak asked if there is a place for discussing this BIRD outside of this meeting. Also, in the age of AMS and API, should new keywords be added to the IBIS specification, or should algorithms be developed for AMS or API? BIRD98: GATE MODULATION EFFECT (TABLE FORMAT) See BIRD97.2 for discussion related to BIRD98. IBISCHK4 BUG STATUS Eckhard Lenski mentioned sending an email to the reflector regarding using the [On] keyword in a Series_switch model. the [On] section references both a [R Series] keyword and a [Series MOSFET] keyword. It looks strange, but it may be correct and ok by parser standards. John Angulo said to be careful with this construct, because this covers a gray area where different software may handle the model differently. ICMCHK1 BUG STATUS Michael Mirmak reported that BUG3 was filed last week. The BUG is related to use of the Model_pinmap keyword. Kelly Green will be fixing this when he has time. NEW TECHNICAL ISSUES None. OPEN ISSUES The next meeting date was discussed. October 27 would be the next normally scheduled time, but this conflicts with the China Summit. Bob Ross suggested November 17 for the next meeting. It was agreed upon that this is a good date. Budgeting for this year and next year were discussed. Michael Mirmak mentioned that he communicated to GEIA that he expected 28 members next year, no new parser licenses payments, and the usual expenses for summits. He also mentioned that there would be no membership dues increases next year. Potentially, there is $4000 extra above our budget this year that we need to deal with. Michael Mirmak would like to see a way to transfer it out to use it as income for next year. Ian Dodd suggested putting the money into a DesignCon sponsorship fund. Bob Ross suggested using the China summit contribution fund for this. Also, the money could be applied to some parser development this year. Michael Mirmak mentioned that the money could be applied to member services such as web page improvements or CDs to distribute at conferences or conference booth improvements. NEXT MEETING Two IBIS summits are coming up. The first is the China IBIS summit on October 27, 2006. The second is the Japan IBIS summit on October 31, 2006. Both conferences will not have telephone bridges. The next IBIS Open Forum teleconference will be held November 17, 2006 from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM US Pacific Time. ============================================================================ NOTES IBIS CHAIR: Michael Mirmak (916) 356-4261, Fax: (916) 377-3788 michael.mirmak@intel.com Server Platform Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Corporation FM5-79 1900 Prairie City Rd. Folsom, CA 95630 VICE CHAIR: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 SECRETARY: Randy Wolff (208) 363-1764, Fax: (208) 368-3475 rrwolff@micron.com SI Modeling Manager, Micron Technology, Inc. 8000 S. Federal Way Mail Stop: 01-711 Boise, ID 83707-0006 LIBRARIAN: Lance Wang (978) 262-6685, Fax: (978) 262-6363 lwang@cadence.com Senior Member, Technical Staff, Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 WEBMASTER: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 POSTMASTER: Bob Ross (503) 246-8048, Fax : (503) 239-4400 bob@teraspeed.com Staff Scientist, Teraspeed Consulting Group 10238 SW Lancaster Road Portland, OR 97219 This meeting was conducted in accordance with the GEIA Legal Guides and GEIA Manual of Organization and Procedure. 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