EIA IBIS Open Forum Minutes Meeting Date: January 11, 2008 GEIA STANDARDS BALLOT VOTING STATUS See last page of the minutes for the voting status of all member companies. VOTING MEMBERS AND 2008 PARTICIPANTS Agilent (Sanjeev Gupta) AMD (Nam Nguyen) Ansoft Corporation (Michael Brenneman) Apple Computer (Bill Cornelius) Applied Simulation Technology (Fred Balistreri) ARM (Nirav Patel) Cadence Design Systems Terry Jernberg*, Hemant Shah*, Ambrish Varma* Cisco Systems Syed Huq*, Mike LaBonte* Ericsson Anders Ekholm* Freescale (Jon Burnett) Green Streak Programs (Lynne Green) Hitachi ULSI Systems (Kazuyoshi Shoji) Huawei Technologies (Xiangzhong Jiang) IBM Adge Hawes* Intel Corporation Michael Mirmak* IO Methodology Lance Wang* LSI Frank Gasparik*, Brian Burdick* Mentor Graphics Arpad Muranyi* Micron Technology Randy Wolff* Nokia Siemens Networks GmbH (Eckhard Lenski) Panasonic (Atsuji Ito) Samtec (Corey Kimble) Signal Integrity Software Todd Westerhoff* Sigrity (Raymond Chen) STMicroelectronics (Anil Kalra) Synopsys (Andy Tai) Teraspeed Consulting Group Bob Ross* Texas Instruments (Stephen Spencer) Toshiba (Yasumasa Kondo) Xilinx (Raymond Anderson) ZTE (Ying Xiong) Zuken (Michael Schaeder) OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN 2008 GEIA (Chris Denham) In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *. Principal members or other active members who have not attended are in parentheses. Participants who no longer are in the organization are in square brackets. UPCOMING MEETINGS The bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences are as follows: Date Telephone Number Meeting ID February 1, 2008 1-866-432-9903 121223194 All meetings are 8:00 AM to 9:55 AM US Pacific Time. Meeting agendas are typically distributed seven days before each Open Forum. Minutes are typically distributed within seven days of the corresponding meeting. When calling into the meeting, press 1 to attend the meeting, then follow the prompts to enter the meeting ID. For new, local international dial-in numbers, please reference the bridge numbers provided by Cisco Systems at the following link: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- INTRODUCTIONS AND MEETING QUORUM No new participants. CALL FOR PATENTS Michael Mirmak called for any patents or pending patents related to the IBIS Version 3.2, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, or ICM 1.1 specifications. No patents were declared. MEMBERSHIP UPDATE AND TREASURER'S REPORT Michael Mirmak noted that there are issues with correctly identifying membership renewals when done by credit card. The invoices this year will include more information to help identify the payee. Bob Ross noted that we show a profit for 2007 currently, and this needs to be closed out with GEIA. We plan to apply extra funds to a DesignCon prepayment. Bob noted that he is proposing a budget for 2008 including the following items: Income Membership $25,200 (based on 28 members at $900 each) 1 Parser $ 2,500 ----------- Total Income $27,700 Expenses Trade Shows $ 2,500 Misc. $ 180 GEIA STTC Allocation $25,020 ----------- Total Expense $27,700 Michael noted that we are closing the year with 32 members. REVIEW OF MINUTES AND ARS Michael Mirmak called for comment regarding the minutes of the December 21, 2007 IBIS Open Forum teleconference. The minutes were approved without changes. WEB PAGE UPDATES Syed Huq reported that there were several updates to the roster page including adding a secondary contact for ZTE and removing “*” from some companies indicating that their membership status has lapsed. Hemant Shah noted that he had an update to the roster page he would send to Syed. Michael Mirmak also noted that Matsushita is changing its name to Panasonic. This might affect roster entries. MAILING LIST ADMINISTRATION Bob Ross reported that everything is running normally. Lance Wang noted that he receives email from the list, but he is unable to send to it. Bob took the AR to check into this further. MODEL LIBRARY UPDATE No update. PRESS UPDATE No update. MISCELLANY/ANNOUNCEMENTS None. OPENS FOR NEW ISSUES Michael Mirmak requested to add a discussion on S2IBIS3 status. Bob Ross asked to discuss financial transactions at the end of the meeting. INTERNATIONAL/EXTERNAL PROGRESS - DASC No update. The DASC website may be found at: http://www.dasc.org/ - P1735 Encryption No update. The IEEE DASC Study Group on Encryption web site is found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ip-encrypt/hm/ Bob Ross noted that the call for participation went out for the IEEE Workshop on Signal Propagation on Interconnects (SPI). The conference is in Avignon, France, May 12-15, 2008. IBIS material is sometimes discussed at this conference. More information can be found at: http://spi.univ-brest.fr IEC APPROVAL ACTIVITIES Michael Mirmak noted that he contacted John Messina at NIST, who agreed to talk over IEC approval with Michael. Michael plans to setup a call with him soon and will include Randy Wolff on the call as well. SUMMIT STATUS - Design Con Planning DesignCon 2008 will be held February 4-7, 2008 at the Santa Clara convention center. The IBIS Summit is scheduled for Thursday, February 7, 2008. Michael Mirmak asked Syed Huq to update the webpage to reflect the correct meeting location and link for registration. Free exhibition passes and a 30% discount are available for anyone signing up for the IBIS meeting. Also, please register directly through Syed to make sure you are registered for lunch. The summit is being held in the Great America ballroom of the convention center. The IBIS booth is #857. Bob Ross noted that there are eight official papers so far, but there is still room for more paper submissions. There are 21 signups so far, but we are looking at 50 or more attendees in total. Booth logistics are handled through Mentor. There is still time to submit a company logo plaque to display in the booth. Michael is bringing a projector. We are still handling A/V logistics for the meeting room. The food vendor is finalized. Cisco is officially sponsoring this summit, though other sponsors are encouraged. - DATE Planning The DATE conference will be in Munich, Germany March 10-14, 2008. The Summit is scheduled for Thursday, March 13. Contact Bob Ross for information. He is working on some logistics issues. - Asian Summits Planning Bob Ross noted that planning is in progress for events in China and Japan. Five companies are interested so far for a conference in Taipei, Taiwan. Sponsorship opportunities for the DesignCon and DATE IBIS summits are available, with sponsors receiving free mentions in the minutes, agenda, and other announcements. Contact the IBIS Board for further details. IBIS QUALITY TASK GROUP Mike LaBonte reported that the group discussed [Receiver Thresholds] and receiver models in general at the last meeting. The next meeting on January 15 will continue on that subject. The Quality Task Group checklist and other documentation can be found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/quality_wip/ IBIS MODEL REVIEW TASK GROUP No update. ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY MODELING TASK GROUP Arpad Muranyi reported that the first meeting of the year was on January 8. The group is discussing differential keyword improvements. Also, SiSoft released an updated version of the AMI toolkit. Cadence will be releasing an update to their kit soon. A guide to using the toolkits will be released soon as well. Task group material can be found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/macromodel_wip/ AD HOC TASK GROUPS (INTERCONNECT) Michael Mirmak reported that the first meeting of the year will be on January 23. The group will discuss IBIS to ICM linking issues. Task group material can be found at: http://www.eda.org/ibis/adhoc/interconnect/ NEW ISSUES Lance Wang reported that IO Methodology is taking over support and enhancement of the S2IBIS3 program. The tool will continue to be free. Lance plans to talk about this more in a DesignCon summit presentation. Ambrish Varma noted that he will send Lance a list of enhancements that users have submitted. Michael Mirmak asked Lance to change support email messages in the software right away so users will know to contact Lance for support. TOUCHSTONE 2.0 Michael Mirmak noted that this was the second call for comment. Bob Ross noted that we should discuss the unusual ordering for S12 and S21 in 2-port networks. This can create issues in certain tools if S21 and S12 are not equivalent. Some suggestions were a keyword to indicate the ordering used or creating a parser that checks for this ordering. Bob and Michael agreed that we should find out the opinion on this issue of several tool vendors. Adge Hawes noted that IBM has an internal tool that uses the natural ordering, and this does conflict with the Touchstone format. He felt that a keyword noting the ordering would be useful. He noted that not including a keyword would default to the original ordering. Bob took the AR to write- up a keyword addition proposal. IBISCHK4 BUG STATUS No new BUGs have been filed. ICMCHK1 BUG STATUS Michael Mirmak reported that there is one BUG, but it will not be fixed until the next version of the parser. The next release of the parser will come out once IIRD9 is closed. NEW TECHNICAL ISSUES -[Node Declarations] and digital nodes Arpad Muranyi reported that he created a model with nodes declared with only single connections. The IBIS parser reported a message indicating an error with analog and digital nodes conflicting. In the IBIS specification, Figure 12 shows internal nodes could be digital or analog, but it is not clearly written in the specification if this is really possible. It appears one could have both digital and analog nodes declared by the [Node Declarations] keyword. The parser is misleading in its message. He suggests we revisit the parser message. Michael Mirmak suggested we talk with the IBISCHK 4.1 parser developer and also to have Arpad write up a BUG report. Michael noted that there are two issues, Arpad’s specific example and the digital to digital port connection in Figure 12. NEXT MEETING The next IBIS Open Forum teleconference will be held February 1, 2008 from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM US Pacific Time. ======================================================================== NOTES IBIS CHAIR: Michael Mirmak (916) 356-4261, Fax: (916) 377-3788 michael.mirmak@intel.com Server Platform Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Corporation FM5-239 1900 Prairie City Rd. Folsom, CA 95630 VICE CHAIR: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 SECRETARY: Randy Wolff (208) 363-1764, Fax: (208) 368-3475 rrwolff@micron.com SI Modeling Manager, Micron Technology, Inc. 8000 S. Federal Way Mail Stop: 01-711 Boise, ID 83707-0006 LIBRARIAN: Lance Wang (978) 633-3388 lwang@iometh.com President / CEO, IO Methodology, Inc. PO Box 2099 Acton, MA 01720 WEBMASTER: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 POSTMASTER: Bob Ross (503) 246-8048, Fax : (503) 239-4400 bob@teraspeed.com Staff Scientist, Teraspeed Consulting Group 10238 SW Lancaster Road Portland, OR 97219 This meeting was conducted in accordance with the GEIA Legal Guides and GEIA Manual of Organization and Procedure. The following e-mail addresses are used: majordomo@eda-stds.org In the body, for the IBIS Open Forum Reflector: subscribe ibis In the body, for the IBIS Users' Group Reflector: subscribe ibis-users Help and other commands: help ibis-request@eda-stds.org To join, change, or drop from either or both: IBIS Open Forum Reflector (ibis@eda-stds.org) IBIS Users' Group Reflector (ibis-users@eda-stds.org) State your request. ibis-info@eda-stds.org To obtain general information about IBIS, to ask specific questions for individual response, and to inquire about joining the EIA-IBIS Open Forum as a full Member. ibis@eda-stds.org To send a message to the general IBIS Open Forum Reflector. This is used mostly for IBIS Standardization business and future IBIS technical enhancements. Job posting information is not permitted. ibis-users@eda-stds.org To send a message to the IBIS Users' Group Reflector. This is used mostly for IBIS clarification, current modeling issues, and general user concerns. Job posting information is not permitted. ibis-bug@eda-stds.org To report ibischk parser BUGs. The BUG Report Form resides along with reported BUGs at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/bugs/ibischk/ http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/bugs/ibischk/bugform.txt icm-bug@eda-stds.org To report icmchk1 parser BUGs. The BUG Report Form resides along with reported BUGs at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/icm_bugs/ http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/icm_bugs/icm_bugform.txt To report s2ibis, s2ibis2 and s2iplt bugs, use the Bug Report Forms which reside at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/bugs/s2ibis/bugs2i.txt http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/bugs/s2ibis2/bugs2i2.txt http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/bugs/s2iplt/bugsplt.txt Information on IBIS technical contents, IBIS participants and actual IBIS models are available on the IBIS Home page: http://www.eigroup.org/ibis/ibis.htm Check the IBIS file directory on eda.org for more information on previous discussions and results: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/directory.html All eda.org documents can be accessed using a mirror: http://www.ibis-information.org Note that the "/ibis" text should be removed from directory names when this URL mirror is used. * Other trademarks, brands and names are the property of their respective owners. GEIA STANDARDS BALLOT VOTING STATUS I/O Buffer Information Specification Committee (IBIS) |Organization |Interest |Standard|November|Novembe|Decembe|January| | |Category |s Ballot|2, 2007 |r 30, |r 21, |11, | | | |Voting | |2007 |2007 |2008 | | | |Status | | | | | |Advanced Micro |Producer |Active |( |( |( | | |Devices | | | | | | | |Agilent |User |Inactive| |( | | | |Technologies | | | | | | | |Ansoft |User |Inactive| | | | | |Apple Computer |User |Inactive| | | | | |Applied |User |Inactive| | | | | |Simulation | | | | | | | |Technology | | | | | | | |ARM |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Cadence Design |User |Active |( |( | |( | |Systems | | | | | | | |Cisco Systems |User |Active |( |( |( |( | |Ericsson |Producer |Active |( |( |( |( | |Freescale |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Green Streak |General |Inactive| | | | | |Programs |Interest | | | | | | |Hitachi ULSI |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Systems | | | | | | | |Huawei |User |Inactive| | |( | | |Technologies | | | | | | | |IBM |Producer |Inactive| |( | |( | |Intel Corp. |Producer |Active |( |( |( |( | |IO Methodology |User |Active | |( |( |( | |LSI |Producer |Active |( |( |( |( | |Mentor Graphics |User |Active |( |( |( |( | |Micron |Producer |Active |( | |( |( | |Technology | | | | | | | |Nokia Siemens |Producer |Active | |( |( | | |Networks | | | | | | | |Panasonic |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Samtec |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Signal Integrity|User |Active |( |( |( |( | |Software | | | | | | | |Sigrity |User |Inactive| |( | | | |STMicroelectroni|Producer |Inactive|( |( | | | |cs | | | | | | | |Synopsys |User |Inactive| | | | | |Teraspeed |General |Active |( |( |( |( | |Consulting |Interest | | | | | | |Texas |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Instruments | | | | | | | |Toshiba |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Xilinx |Producer |Inactive|( |( | | | |ZTE |User |Inactive| | | | | |Zuken GmbH |User |Inactive| | | | | Criteria for Member in good standing: • Must attend two consecutive meetings to establish voting membership • Membership dues current • Must not miss two consecutive Meetings Interest categories associated with GEIA ballot voting are: • Users - Members that utilize electronic equipment to provide services to an end user. • Producers - Members that supply electronic equipment. • General Interest - Members are neither producers nor users. This category includes, but is not limited to, Government, regulatory agencies (state and federal), researchers, other organizations and associations, and/or consumers.