IBIS Open Forum Minutes Meeting Date: April 3, 2009 VOTING MEMBERS AND 2009 PARTICIPANTS Actel (Prabhu Mohan) Agilent Technologies Yutao Hu, Fangyi Rao AMD Nam Nguyen* Ansoft Corporation Steve Pytel Apple Computer (Matt Herndon) Applied Simulation Technology (Fred Balistreri) ARM V. Muniswara Reddy Cadence Design Systems Terry Jernberg*, Ambrish Varma Cisco Systems Luis Boluna, Tram Bui, Bill Chen, Syed Huq*, Mike LaBonte*, Pedo Miran Huyen Pham, AbdulRahman (Abbey) Rafiq, Ashwin Vasudevan, Zhiping Yang Ericsson Anders Ekholm* Freescale Jon Burnett, Om Mandhama Green Streak Programs Lynne Green Hitachi ULSI Systems (Kazuyoshi Shoji) Huawei Technologies Xiaoqing Dong, Chunxing Huang, Guan Tao IBM Adge Hawes Infineon Technologies AG (Christian Sporrer) Intel Corporation Michael Mirmak, Jon Powell, Sirisha Prayaga LSI Brian Burdick* Marvell Semiconductor (Itzik Peleg) Mentor Graphics Weston Beal, Vladimir Dmitriev-Zdorov, Zhen Mu, Arpad Muranyi Micron Technology Randy Wolff* Nokia Siemens Networks GmbH Eckhard Lenski* Samtec (Corey Kimble) Signal Integrity Software Barry Katz, Walter Katz, Todd Westerhoff* Sigrity Sam Chitwood Synopsys Ted Mido Teraspeed Consulting Group Bob Ross* Texas Instruments Pavani Jella Toshiba (I.S. Corporation) (Yasumasa Kondo) Xilinx David Banas* ZTE (Ying Xiong) Zuken (Michael Schaeder) OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN 2009 AET Mikio Kiyono Bayside Design Stephen Coe, Elliot Nahas Circuit Spectrum Zaven Tashjian CST Antonio Ciccomancini, Martin Schauem Curtiss-Wright Embedded J. Phillips Computing EM Integrity Guy de Burgh Exar Helen Nguyen GEIA (Chris Denham) ICT Solutions Steven Wong* IO Methodology Li (Kathy) Chen, Lance Wang*, Zhi (Benny) Yan Juniper Kevin Ko Leventhal Design & Roy Leventhal Communications Maxim Integrated Products Ron Olisar Mindspeed Technologies Bobby Alkay NetLogic Microsystems Eric Hsu Sanmina SCI Vladimir Drivanenko Sedona International Joe Socha Signal Consulting Group Timothy Coyle, Nicole Mitchell Simberian Yuriy Shlepnev Xsigo Systems Robert Badel Independent Ian Dodd In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *. Principal members or other active members who have not attended are in parentheses. Participants who no longer are in the organization are in square brackets. UPCOMING MEETINGS The bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences are as follows: Date Telephone Number Meeting ID April 23, 2009 -- IBIS Summit at DATE; no teleconference -- April 24, 2009 1-866-432-9903 121564807 All meetings are 8:00 AM to 9:55 AM US Pacific Time. Meeting agendas are typically distributed seven days before each Open Forum. Minutes are typically distributed within seven days of the corresponding meeting. When calling into the meeting, press 1 to attend the meeting, then follow the prompts to enter the meeting ID. For new, local international dial-in numbers, please reference the bridge numbers provided by Cisco Systems at the following link: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- INTRODUCTIONS AND MEETING QUORUM No new participants. Syed Huq noted that he would be running the meeting instead of Michael Mirmak. CALL FOR PATENTS Syed Huq called for any patents or pending patents related to the IBIS Version 3.2, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, or ICM 1.1 specifications. No patents were declared. MEMBERSHIP UPDATE AND TREASURER'S REPORT Syed Huq reminded members to please take care of 2009 membership invoices. If you have not received an invoice, please let the board know. Bob Ross reported that nine members have officially renewed so far, so we need to start following up with renewal notices. REVIEW OF MINUTES AND ARS Syed Huq called for comments regarding the minutes of the March 13, 2009 IBIS Open Forum teleconference. The minutes were approved without changes. WEB PAGE UPDATES No update. MAILING LIST ADMINISTRATION Bob Ross reported that everything is working normally. MODEL LIBRARY UPDATE Lance Wang reported that he sent an update to the library page to TechAmerica. It should be updated shortly. PRESS UPDATE None. MISCELLANY/ANNOUNCEMENTS None. OPENS FOR NEW ISSUES Bob Ross would like to show the prototype IBIS logos for discussion at the end of the meeting. INTERNATIONAL/EXTERNAL PROGRESS - DASC No update. The DASC file and e-mail archive may be found at: http://www.dasc.org/ - P1735 Encryption Syed Huq reported that the group is seeking input from EDA vendors that would like to take part in interoperability testing. The IEEE DASC Study Group on Encryption web reflector archives are found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ip-encrypt/hm/ - TechAmerica Status Bob Ross reported that a new website is up, but it is not completely switched over from the old websites. The new website is: http://www.techamerica.org/ Three upcoming conferences include Signal Integrity and Power Integrity topics. Information on these is below. The 13th IEEE Workshop on Signals Propagation on Interconnects (SPI) is May 12-15, 2009 in Strasbourg, France. The keynote speech is on the importance of Signal Integrity, including mention of IBIS… http://spi.univ-brest.fr The Electrical Performance of Electronic Packaging and Systems (EPEPS 2009) is October 19-21, 2009 at the Embassy Suites in Portland, OR. This is a major meeting for SI people from universities and industry. http://www.epep.org/ The 7th International Workshop on Electromagnetic Compatibility of Integrated Circuits (EMC COMPO 2009) is November 17-20, 2009 in Toulouse, France. The call for papers deadline is May 30, 2009. http://www.emccompo.org IEC APPROVAL ACTIVITIES No update. SUMMIT STATUS -DATE Planning Ralf Bruening of Zuken has been organizing the event. It is scheduled for Thursday morning, April 23, 2009 in Nice, France. Agilent, Sigrity and Zuken are the current sponsors. Several paper presentations are already planned. The fourth announcement went out yesterday. Five papers are planned so far. -DAC Planning DAC is scheduled for July 26-31, 2009 in San Francisco. The IBIS summit is scheduled for Tuesday, July 28. Sponsorship is welcome. Elections are also held at this meeting. Let the board know if you are interested in an officer position. The first call for papers should go out in mid-May. Mentor Graphics is a co-sponsor of this event and will help with room arrangements. -Asia Summits Planning Meetings in China and Japan are tentatively scheduled in the November- December timeframe. Sponsors are welcome. Bob inquired about interest in the meeting. There is definite interest in China. The meeting will depend upon raising more funds. The meeting will likely be held either in Shenzhen or Shanghai. There is also interest in holding a meeting in Japan. We need to gauge availability of non-Asian participants as well. Sponsorship opportunities for all upcoming IBIS summits are available, with sponsors receiving free mentions in the minutes, agenda, and other announcements. Contact the IBIS Board for further details. IBIS QUALITY TASK GROUP Mike LaBonte reported that the group has about one more month of meetings to wrap up the 1.1 specification. They are cleaning up the correlation section currently. This section will refer to other documents. The group plans to discuss the I/O Buffer Accuracy Handbook next. The Quality Task Group checklist and other documentation can be found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/quality_wip/ IBIS MODEL REVIEW TASK GROUP No update. ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY MODELING TASK GROUP Bob Ross reported that the group discussed IBIS Interconnect Spice the last two meetings. Synopsys supplied their HSPICE manual in Word format to begin cutting down and editing for use in defining IBIS Interconnect Spice. There is also work in progress on an S-parameter block BIRD. Task group material can be found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/macromodel_wip/ AD HOC TASK GROUPS (INTERCONNECT) Bob Ross reported that the group is not meeting currently. Task group material can be found at: http://www.eda.org/ibis/adhoc/interconnect/ NEW ISSUES Bob Ross showed proposals for new logo designs. The new designs only mention IBIS and remove references to any parent organizations. Bob asked for feedback on six design proposals. Some people liked options B, C and D. Mike LaBonte noted that the outline of the bird in F might print better. Also, there shouldn’t be too much color gradient in the IBIS letters. A was eliminated. There will be more discussion in the next meeting. BIRD111.2: EXTENDED USAGE OF EXTERNAL SERIES COMPONENTS IN EBDS Bob Ross reported that he has been in contact with Michael Schaeder and Walter Katz who reviewed the changes. He showed the change in text in the BIRD111.3 draft version to clarify the usage of series elements including [R Series], [L Series], [C Series], [Rl Series], [Lc Series], [Rc Series], [Series Current] and [Series MOSFET]. The BIRD111.3 text should be uploaded and sent out next week. He would like it to be considered for a vote at the next meeting. TOUCHSTONE 2.0 REVIEW Syed Huq made the third call for comments on the Touchstone 2.0 document. Bob Ross noted that there have been a few minor changes from the last meeting. They are not in the current review document. There has been discussion about normalization verbiage and the multiplier character. Syed asked if we expect it to be up for a vote at the next meeting. Bob noted that we will need to upload the updated document. We should it schedule for a vote. The draft Touchstone 2.0 document is found at: http://www.eda.org/ibis/docs/touchstone/touchstone2_forum_review_draft_ a.pdf IBISCHK5 PARSER STATUS Syed Huq explained that we need to raise funds for the parser development. The first step is to set a price for the parser license. The committee is proposing a price of $2500. We have two commitments of parser purchases currently. The proposed price will also help to cover future IBISCHK5.x development. A motion was made for vote to set the price at $2500. The vote passed unanimously with the following vote tally: AMD yes Cisco yes Ericsson yes Intel yes (by email) LSI yes Micron yes Nokia yes SiSoft yes Teraspeed yes Xilinx yes IBISCHK4 BUG STATUS Bob Ross reported that two BUGs are open right now. There are no plans to fix these in the near term, as they are not included in the IBISCHK5 parser development. The BUG report list is available at the link below: http://www.eda.org/ibis/bugs/ibischk/ ICMCHK1 BUG STATUS ICMCHK1 version 1.1.3 has been released, and the executables can be downloaded. All BUGs have been closed at this point. NEW ISSUES None. NEXT MEETING The next IBIS summit will take place at DATE on April 23, 2009. No teleconference has been arranged for the meeting. The next IBIS Open Forum teleconference will be held April 24, 2009 from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM US Pacific Standard Time. ======================================================================== NOTES IBIS CHAIR: Michael Mirmak (916) 356-4261, Fax: (916) 377-3788 michael.mirmak@intel.com Server Platform Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Corporation FM5-239 1900 Prairie City Rd. Folsom, CA 95630 VICE CHAIR: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 shuq@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 SECRETARY: Randy Wolff (208) 363-1764, Fax: (208) 368-3475 rrwolff@micron.com SI Modeling Manager, Micron Technology, Inc. 8000 S. Federal Way Mail Stop: 01-711 Boise, ID 83707-0006 LIBRARIAN: Lance Wang (978) 633-3388 lwang@iometh.com President / CEO, IO Methodology, Inc. PO Box 2099 Acton, MA 01720 WEBMASTER: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504 huqs@cisco.com Manager, Hardware Engineering, Cisco Systems 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 POSTMASTER: Bob Ross (503) 246-8048, Fax : (503) 239-4400 bob@teraspeed.com Staff Scientist, Teraspeed Consulting Group 10238 SW Lancaster Road Portland, OR 97219 This meeting was conducted in accordance with the GEIA Legal Guides and GEIA Manual of Organization and Procedure. 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IBIS CURRENT MEMBER VOTING STATUS I/O Buffer Information Specification Committee (IBIS) |Organization |Interest |Standard|February|Februar|March |April | | |Category |s Ballot|5, 2009 |y 20, |13, |3, 2009| | | |Voting | |2009 |2009 | | | | |Status | | | | | |Actel |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Advanced Micro |Producer |Inactive| |( | |( | |Devices | | | | | | | |Agilent |User |Inactive|( | | | | |Technologies | | | | | | | |Ansoft |User |Inactive| |( | | | |Apple Computer |User |Inactive| | | | | |Applied |User |Inactive| | | | | |Simulation | | | | | | | |Technology | | | | | | | |ARM |Producer |Inactive|( |( | | | |Cadence Design |User |Inactive|( | | |( | |Systems | | | | | | | |Cisco Systems |User |Active |( |( |( |( | |Ericsson |Producer |Active |( |( | |( | |Freescale |Producer |Inactive|( | | | | |Green Streak |General |Inactive| |( | | | |Programs |Interest | | | | | | |Hitachi ULSI |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Systems | | | | | | | |Huawei |User |Inactive|( | |( | | |IBM |Producer |Active | |( |( | | |Infineon |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Technologies AG | | | | | | | |Intel Corp. |Producer |Active |( |( |( | | |LSI |Producer |Active | |( |( |( | |Marvell |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Semiconductor | | | | | | | |Mentor Graphics |User |Active |( |( |( | | |Micron |Producer |Active | |( |( |( | |Technology | | | | | | | |Nokia Siemens |Producer |Active | |( | |( | |Networks | | | | | | | |Samtec |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Signal Integrity|User |Active |( |( |( |( | |Software | | | | | | | |Sigrity |User |Inactive|( | | | | |Synopsys |User |Inactive|( | | | | |Teraspeed |General |Active |( |( |( |( | |Consulting |Interest | | | | | | |Texas |Producer |Inactive| |( | | | |Instruments | | | | | | | |Toshiba |Producer |Inactive| | | | | |Xilinx |Producer |Inactive|( | | |( | |ZTE |User |Inactive| | | | | |Zuken |User |Inactive| | | | | Criteria for Member in good standing: • Must attend two consecutive meetings to establish voting membership • Membership dues current • Must not miss two consecutive Meetings Interest categories associated with GEIA ballot voting are: • Users - Members that utilize electronic equipment to provide services to an end user. • Producers - Members that supply electronic equipment. • General Interest - Members are neither producers nor users. This category includes, but is not limited to, Government, regulatory agencies (state and federal), researchers, other organizations and associations, and/or consumers.