[IBIS-Users] ECL Termination Voltage Question


Subject: [IBIS-Users] ECL Termination Voltage Question
From: Fisher, Thomas (tomfisher@ti.com)
Date: Thu Jan 15 2004 - 08:16:08 PST


Bob, thanks for the response. Do I understand you correctly in that the Vtt
is pre-set (base on Vcc) within the model type, 'output_ECL?' If this is
the case, then it creates a problem for this particular model.

 

Secondly, I am using the [Rising Waveform] and [Falling Waveform] but it
does not correct this problem. The VT tables are created from Spice with
200 ohm resistors to ground. If 'output_ECL' is wanting to use the pre-set
Vtt = Vcc - 2V with 50 ohm resistors, this is a problem.

 

Who could I contact that could explain how the 'output_ECL' model type is
constructed? Thanks. -T-

 

 

 

Regards,

Thomas Fisher

Senior Systems Engineer

Texas Instruments, Inc. Business: 214 480-3736

P.O. Box 660199 MS8710 Fax: 214 480-3160

Dallas, TX 75266-0199 <mailto:tomfisher@ti.com> tomfisher@ti.com

 

 

Tom:

My responses are in your text.

Bob

Fisher, Thomas wrote:

> All,
>
> I have a PECL driver that I am modeling that has a non-standard load (pi
> network to ground) which results in a larger Vod. (1.2-V vs. 800mV)
> What happens during simulation is the single-ended waveform depicts a
> slowness of the rising edge which results in a plateau effect on the
> rise/fall of the differential waveform. (It looks great when simulating
> in TISpice) Most (P)ECL termination is going to be 50 ohms to Vtt for
> both non-inverting and inverting outputs whereas Vtt = Vcc - 2-V. Under
> the load I am simulating we are using 200 ohms to ground. (customers'
> request)
>
>
>
> Having said that, looking in the 3.2 spec on page 78 under ramp rates
> model_type for output_ECL it mentions 50 ohm resistor to the termination
> voltage (Vterm = Vcc - 2-V). Is this Vterm embedded into the
> specification?

Yes

Is there a way to specify that the load is 200 ohms to
> ground?

Yes, but you must use the [Rising Waveform] and [Falling Waveform]
method and describe the waveform. This will override the [Ramp]
keyword, which cannot correctly specify the situation you describe.

I believe this might be causing the abnormality. Any
> help/insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom Fisher
>
>
>

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