Dear Young-Seok Hong, I am no expert, but as it appears that you haven't received a response to your question yet, I'll try to answer it for you. As you noticed, the Electrical Board Description format does not support 'loops'. If the loop contains a passive component, then the loop may be "broken" (effectively removed) by replacing the passive component with a reference to an IBIS model of the passive component. (The loop is broken because the path description itself or a fork within the path description will end at the reference to the IBIS model.) Also, the Electrical Board Description format considers all lumped capacitance to be a description of a capacitor to ground. So, in your specific example, you must replace C1 with an IBIS model of a capacitor. You could also replace R1 with an IBIS model of a resistor, but that is optional. If you just replace the capacitor with an IBIS model of the capacitor, then your path description would look like: Pin 1 -----Length a -----R1.1 -----Length b -----Node C1.1 -----Length c -----Node U1.1 | Pin 2 -----Length d -----R1.2 -----Length e -----Node C1.2 -----Length f -----Node U1.2 [Path Description] Pin1 Len a / Fork Len b / Node C1.1 Len c / Node U1.1 Endfork len R1 / Fork Len e / Node C1.2 Len f / Node U1.2 Endfork Len d / Pin 2 If your were to also replace R1 with an IBIS model of the resistor, then you would end up with two completely separate path descriptions, one for external pin 1 and another for external pin 2. Best regards, Matthew Flora ________________________________ From: owner-ibis@eda.org [mailto:owner-ibis@eda.org] On Behalf Of YoungSeok Hong Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:15 PM Cc: ibis; ibis-users@eda.org ; owner-ibis-users@eda.org Subject: [IBIS] [IBIS-Users] How to describe the differential pair in EBD? Hi, experts! I'm trying to make an EBD model. But I have a problem with the differential pair description. Let us suppose that the diff. pair is like follwoing (there is a loop) Can anyone let me know how to describe ? Thanks. Young-Seok Pin 1 -----Length a -----------Node R1.1-----------Length b---------Length C1.1------------Node 1 | | Pin 2 -----Length c -----------Node R1.2-----------Length d---------Length C1.2------------Node 2 [Path Description] Pin1 Len a / Fork Node R1.1 Node R1.2 Fork Len c / Pin 2 Endfork Len d / ??? ================================== Young-Seok Hong Memory Division Device Solution Network SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. E-mail : youngs.hong@samsung.com ================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------- |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, email majordomo_ f rom _eda.org |with the appropriate command message(s) in the body: | | help | subscribe ibis | subscribe ibis-users | unsubscribe ibis | unsubscribe ibis-users | |or email a request to ibis-request_ f rom _eda.org. | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993 |------------------------------------------------------------------ |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, email majordomo@eda.org |with just the appropriate command message(s) in the body: | | help | subscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | subscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | |or email a written request to ibis-request@eda.org. | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993Received on Wed Mar 9 09:01:39 2005
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