Hi Michael, Thanks for your detailed email. I dont know what do you mean by Vcm shift in your simulations, but about I-V data collection/generation process itself I can say the following. First of all, your way to generate pulldown/pullup data for corners is correct. But I think you have problem when dealing with clamping currents. In two words - you need to subtruct the clamping current BEFORE you do any transformation/manipulation/splitting of the simulated data, I mean - first run all simulations with appropriate sweeps, subtruct what you need and then format the resulted data into IBIS file. %----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- [Anand] You have correctly pointed out that the clamp currents are the problem. %----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- So, I suggest the following algorithm in your case of 1.8V (+-10%) supply: 1) Run pulldown enabled (buffer drives zero, enable is active) simulation for each corner with the same sweep range of PAD voltage [-1.8;3.6]V. 2) Run pullup enabled (buffer drives one, enable is active) simulation for each corner with different sweep range of PAD voltage: [-1.8;3.6]V for typ, [-1.9;3.5]V for min, [-1.7;3.7]V for max. 3) Run high-impedance state (buffer is disabled, no matter what is input data. Be careful here, if the input still affect the output in some way, lets say via some configurable terminator structures, you should do this step separately for "driving" zero and "driving" one situations) simulations for each corner with the same sweep range of PAD voltage [-1.9;3.7]V. 4) Subtract current data of (3) in range [-1.8;3.6] from current data of (1) in each corner accordingly. Resulted data is ready for [Puldown] ground-relative IBIS table. 5) Subtract current data of (3) from current data of (2) when using appropriate voltage range of (3) data: [-1.8;3.6]V for typ, [-1.9;3.5]V for min, [-1.7;3.7]V for max. The resulted data need to be transform by Vtable=VCC-Vpad in order to be [Pullup] VCC-relative IBIS table. %----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- [Anand] To make sure I understood this correctly let me write this down for min corner. vdd(min) = 1.7 V vdd(typ) = 1.8 V Pulldown: sweep in the range [-1.8, 3.6] V * Subtract the clamp currents which were obtained in the range [-1.8, 3.6] V Pullup: sweep in the range [-1.9, 3.5] V * Subtract the clamp currents which were obtained in the range [-1.9, 3.5] V (For pullup since they are vdd referenced, this turns out to be 1.7 - [-1.9, 3.5] = [3.6, -1.8]) %----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- 6) "Split" (3) current data as following: GND [-1.8;1.8] & POWER [1.8;3.6] for typ, GND [-1.8;1.8] & POWER [1.7;3.5] for min, GND [-1.8;1.8] & POWER [1.9;3.7] for max Three currents columns of what we called GND are ready for [GND Clamp] ground-relative IBIS table. %----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- [Anand] This is where I am not sure what do. Using min corner as an example. Pulldown: the clamp data spans the range [-1.8, 3.6] Pullup: the clamp data spans the range [-1.9, 3.5] Using Michael's method, GND [-1.8;1.8] // misses the current corresponding to -1.9 V which was used to subtract pullup data. PWR [1.7;3.5] // misses the current corresponding to 3.6 V which was used to subtract pulldown data This is the reason why I thought: 1) figure out the clamp currents first and 2) subtract the clamp currents from pullup/pulldown data. %----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- [Anand] For the output pins, one way to get out of this situation is to delete the [PWR Clamp] and [GND Clamp] tables and have everything in the pullup/pulldown tables. I think this takes away the ability to simulate when the cell is disabled. Is there any disadvantages due to this deletion of [Clamp] tables? For the input pins, I hope steps (6)-(8) suggested by Michael should be sufficient. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks for your patient reading Anand %----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------------------------------------------------------------- |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, e-mail majordomo@eda-stds.org |with the appropriate command message(s) in the body: | | help | subscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | subscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | |or e-mail a request to ibis-request@eda-stds.org. | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda-stds.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda-stds.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda-stds.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993Received on Wed Mar 19 10:16:34 2008
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