Re: Non-Monotonic Drivers

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Dileep,

I tend to agree. I am just curious which tool you are referring to.
Would you be able to disclose that info to us?

Arpad
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My understanding of the non-monotonic behavior
being discussed here is as follows. An I-V table is
specified, where I is the dependent variable
and V is the independent variable. V values
are strictly monotonically increasing. The
corresponding I values are non-monotonic i.e.,
for a certain range of V, I decreases as V
increases; but the I values are unique i.e.,
for each V value, there is only one I value.

I do not see why such a table cannot be used.

As far as the Golden Parser is concerned, it
will issue a warning, but it will not prevent
the user from specifying such data.

As far as the simulators are concerned, the
simulator I work on, will be able to use that
data without any problems. I think that some
other simulators give "error" messages or
"correct" such a data because they assume that
such a device does not exist and therefore, the
user may have made a mistake in specifying that
information. If they know that the specification
is intentional, then they may be able to use that
data with very minor modifications to the simulator.

Of course, it is possible to connect such a device
in some topologies where the circuit will be
unstable or may have multiple stable points.
Then, the simulations will have problems.
But if the device is connected so that the
circuit has a well defined behavior, then
it will be possible to simulate the circuit.
This will be the case for most of the
signal integrity applications.

Dileep Divekar
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