DATE: 10/5/99
SUBJECT: 10/1/99 EIA IBIS Open Forum Meeting Minutes
VOTING MEMBERS AND 1999 PARTICIPANTS LIST:
Applied Simulation Technology Raj Raghuram*, Norio Matsui, Neven Orhanovic,
Fred Ballesteri
Avanti Nikolai Bannov
Cadence Design Mike LaBonte*
Cisco Systems Syed Huq
Compaq Bob Haller, Steve Coe, Shafir Rahman,
Maher Elasad
Cypress (Rajesh Manapat)
EMC Corporation Fabrizio Zanella
Fairchild Semiconductor [Peter LaFlamme], Craig Klem
H.A.S. Electronics (Haruny Said)
Hewlett Packard (EEsof, etc.) Paul Gregory, Henry Wu
HyperLynx (& Pads Software) Matthew Flora*, Kellee Crisafulli, Lynne Green,
John Angulo*
IBM Greg Edlund, Michael Cohen*, Praven Patel
Incases Olaf Rethmeier, Werner Rissiek, David Eagles,
Wilhelm Arnoldi, Ulrich Losch
Intel Corporation Stephen Peters*, Arpad Muranyi*, Frank Kern,
Martin Chang, Dave Moxley, Kerry Nelson*,
Jeff Day, Richard Mellitz, Peter Liou,
Will Hobbs*, Henri Maramis
LSI Logic (Symbios Logic) Scott King
Mentor Graphics Bob Ross*, Mohamed Mahmoud, Sherif Hammad,
Jean Oudinot, Markku Kukkanen, Martin Groeber,
Karine Loudet, Hisham Gamal, Evgeny Wasserman
Mitsubishi (Tam Cao)
Motorola (Ron Werner)
National Semiconductor Milt Schwartz
North East Systems Associates Edward Sayre, Michael Baxter, Kathy Breda
NEC (Hiroshi Matsumoto)
Philips Semiconductor Todd Andersen, Peter Christiaans
Quantic EMC (Mike Ventham)
Siemens Bernhard Unger, Christian Mitschke,
Manfred Maurer, Peter Kaiser, Wolfram Meyer,
Gerald Bannert, Harmut Ibowski, Katja Zuleeg,
Hans Pichlmaier, Eckhard Lenski, Kortheuer Udo,
Christian Sporrer
SiQual Scott McMorrow
Texas Instruments Jean-Claude Perrin, Shankar Balasubramaniah,
Ramzi Ammar, Thomas Fisher
Time Domain Analysis Systems Dima Smolyansky
Viewlogic Systems Chris Rokusek, Guy de Burgh*, Cary Mandel,
(Jon Powell)
VeriBest Ian Dodd
Via Technologies (Weber Chuang)
VLSI Technology D.C. Sessions
OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN 1999:
3Dfx Interactive Ken Wu
Actel Corporation Silvia Montoya
Alcatel Steven Criel
Analytical Edge Robert Easson
Applied Microelectronics Brian Sanderson
BMW Friedrich Haslinger
Bogatin Enterprise Eric Bogatin
Bosch Telecom Detlef Wolf
Celestica Danny Da Silva
ECI Telecom Daniel Adar
EIA [Patti Rusher], Cecilia Fleming*,
Dan Heinemeier
Electronique Catherine Gross
EFM Consulting Ekkehard Miersch
FCI John Ellis
High Design Technology Razvan Ene
Hitachi ULSI Hideki Fukuda
Infineon Thomas Latzel
Intracon Design Mike Osmond
Litton Systems Robert Bremer
Matsushita Atsuji Itoh
Molex Incorporated Gus Panella
Nortel Networks Martin Hall (& at Viewlogic), Calvin Trowell
Oce Printing Systems Ernst Deiringer
Praegitzer Design Rick Newell
Rockwell Collins Susan Tweeton, Ron Hau
Samsung Jung-Gun Byun, Cheol-Seung Choi
Shindengen Tsuyoshi Horigome
Signals & Systems Engineering Tom Hawkins
STMicroelectronics Fabrice Boissieres, Philippe LeFevre
StorageTek Nick Krull
Sun Microsystems Victor Chang, Kevin Ko
Tektronix Tom Brinkoetter
Teradyne Mikhail Khusid
VDOL Robert Novosel
Xilinx Susan Wu
(Unaffiliated, Retired) Bruce Wenniger
In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *. Principal
members or other active members who have not attended are in parentheses.
Participants who no longer are in the organization are in square brackets.
Upcoming Meetings: The bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences are as
follows:
Date Bridge Number Reservation # Passcode
October 14, 1999 IBIS Summit Meeting, No Teleconference
October 29, 1999 (916) 356-9200 2-356762 1385866
November 19, 1999 (916) 356-9200 2-356763 7473493
All meetings are 8:00 AM to 9:55 AM Pacific Time. We try to have agendas out
7 days before each Open Forum and meeting minutes out within 7 days after.
When you call into the meeting, ask for the IBIS Open Forum hosted by Will
Hobbs and give the reservation number and passcode.
NOTE: "AR" = Action Required.
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INTRODUCTIONS AND MEETING QUORUM
No new participants.
MEMBERSHIP UPDATE AND TREASURER'S REPORT
Bob Ross announced that Via Technologies in Taiwan is now an official EIA IBIS
Open Forum Member and is so listed above.
Guy de Burgh noted that he added Via Technologies to the membership list. He
still is validating the addresses of four member companies.
REVIEW OF MINUTES AND AR'S
The September 10, 1999 Minutes were approved without change.
Bob Ross opened the discussion, per the AR's for Cecilia Fleming and Bob,
regarding alignment of the IBIS bylaws with EIA EP-20, and also with respect
to new officer positions approved at the June 18, 1999 meeting.
The AR's are as follows:
AR - Bob Ross and Cecilia Fleming research what is needed to align the IBIS
bylaws with EP-20.
AR - Bob Ross and Cecilia Fleming write position definitions for the new
positions of Webmaster and Postmaster.
Bob presented his opinion that the EP-20 bylaws do not relate well to
organizations that conduct business on a frequent basis via teleconference
calls and that use public e-mail reflectors for discussions. The IBIS Open
Forum has effectively conducted business in a professional manner for years
with wide-spread public visibility and support. There is no compelling
reason for the IBIS Open Forum to change its mode of operation.
Bob noted that EP-20 has an "escape clause" in the Notice Page: "This
publication is not intended to preclude or discourage other approaches that
similarly represent good engineering practice, or that may be acceptable to, or
have been accepted by the appropriate bodies." Bob proposed exercising this
clause to provide the rationale for dealing with the meeting quorum issue.
Bob proposed that the meeting quorum remain at 5 member companies for normal
teleconference business. We typically have had about 8 to 10 participating
at each meeting out of 31 companies. Of this number, about 15 companies have
been calling in. Many other companies have joined to be either supportive of
IBIS or to participate in other ways besides attending the teleconference
meetings.
Formal letter ballot votes usually related to the official ratification of
documents. Bob proposed that we will require a majority of official members
to vote on such issues. This actually exceeds the EP-20 rules. Currently
this means we would require 16 members to vote.
Bob also copied the officer positions from the original charter, but changed
to add draft descriptions of the new Postmaster and Webmaster positions. We
will vote on adopting these new positions at a later meeting.
Position Responsibilities
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Chairperson Oversee all forum activities, preside at all general
meetings. Finance authority. This person must be an
employee of a Membership Company.
Vice Chair Cover for chair and secretary in their absence, coordinate
all public relations (press releases, media contacts). This
person must be an employee of a Membership Company.
Secretary Coordinate logistics of all meetings, take and publish
meeting minutes within 10 days of meeting. [Delete this
task since it is transferred to the Postmaster: Work with
or act as file server sysop to maintain the reflector and
on-line files.] This person does not need to be an employee
of a Membership Company.
Librarian Maintain the library of public IBIS models, including
verifying authenticity and compliance before posting. This
person does not need to be an employee of Membership
Company.
Webmaster Maintains the contents of the official EIA IBIS Open Forum
Web site and Roster files under www.eia.org either directly
or through contact with EIA staff. This person does not
need to be an employee of a Membership Company.
Postmaster Maintains the e-mail distribution lists and performs file
server sysop activities for the on-line files on the IBIS
site: www.eda.org/pub/ibis/. This person does not need to
be an employee of a Membership Company.
Other AR's will be discussed during the meeting.
MISCELLANY/ANNOUNCEMENTS
None.
PRESS AND WEB PAGE UPDATES
Bob Ross reported that Syed Huq uploaded an updated Roster. Please review and
send corrections to Syed. We are listing primary and secondary member for the
official EIA members, where possible.
Bob Ross noted that Michael Mirmak of Intel updated the tree3_0a.txt to
the Version 3.2 level and also expanded the content to note the IBIS Version
number when a feature was introduced. Some enumerated items were added. It
is now uploaded in
http://pub/ibis/ver3.2/tree3_2.txt
Comments are welcome. This may be enhanced further since some additional
modes are not documented.
The older trees formerly in the work in progress (wip) subdirectory have been
moved to the ver3.0 subdirectories.
Bob reported that Roy Leventhal of 3Com has prepared some IBIS tutorial
material and expanded descriptions. Bob plans to upload the material in the
training subdirectory after the write-ups are reviewed and purged of some
information that applies only to 3Com.
Bob reported on a paper: "The Development of Analog SPICE Behavioral Model
Based on IBIS Model" in the Proceedings of the Ninth Great Lakes Symposium on
VLSI, March, 1999, by Ying Wang and Han Ngee Tan of Nanyang Technological
University, Singapore, on pp. 101-104. It presents some of the algorithms
that have been reported at IBIS Summit Meetings. A link to this paper is:
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehntan/glsvlsi.zip
Bob noted that there was some discussion on the Signal Integrity Reflector on
IBIS algorithms with an older reference to:
"Extraction of Transient Behavioral Model of Digital I/O Buffers from IBIS" by
Peivand Tehrani, Yuzhe Chen and Jiayuan Fang from the 46th IEEE Electronic
Components & Technology Conference, May 28-31, 1996, pp. 1009-1015. A link
exits under:
http://www.sigrity.com/papers/ectc96/DOectc96ibis.htm
Bob also noted that "IBIS Models Accept the High Speed Challenge", by Dan
Lake, Mentor Graphics, in Design Wave Magazine, August, 1999 in Japan. The
English translation is on the site:
http://www.mentor.com/icx/articles/ibis_models_aug99.html
NEW MODELS AVAILABLE, LIBRARY UPDATE
Bob Ross stated that the Infineon IBIS model link previously published has
been dropped.
OPENS FOR NEW ISSUES
None.
INTERNATIONAL/EXTERNAL PROGRESS
- IEC 62014-1 (IBIS Version 2.1) - Cecilia Fleming reported on the IEC TC93
meeting held in Arlington, Virginia on September 22-23, 1999. She sent some
draft minutes and presentations to Bob Ross. Cecilia noted that IEC 62014-1
vote (IEC 93/91/CDV) has been approved and is at FDIS due December 1, 1999.
Cecilia needs to make the changes necessary for it to be published. The
maintenance cycle will be three years, and Bob is designated the Project
Leader. Bob noted that other related business will be discussed later.
- pr EIAJ ED-5302 Standard for I/O Interface Model for Integrated Circuits
(IMIC) - Cecilia Fleming did not have any report on any possible discussions
of IMIC at the IEC TC93 meeting.
- IEC PWI 93-1 Models of Integratd Circuits for EMI Behavioral Simulation
(formerly designated as IEC 93/67/NP IBIS and EMC Simulation) - Bob Ross
stated that the draft minutes of the IEC TC93 meeting above showed that
several national bodies were interested in IBIS and EMC. The project is
still remaining at "zero stage". Bob noted that the WG6 Action Plan has
these items to be done by December 2000 by Jean-Claude Perrin:
Complete IBIS EMC Model Validation
Work with IEC TC47 and IEC TC77 to define ways to measure and incorporate
EMC characteristics into systems descriptions
Encourage adoption of IBIS EMC extensions by software vendors
- JC-16.2 Subcommittee: Modeling and Test - Bob Ross noted that D.C. Sessions
reported provide a presentation at the JEDEC meeting in Vancouver, British
Columbia. His slides (which are available directly from him) showed that he
reported on the progress of BIRD61, BIRD62, and BIRD63. These BIRDs relate
to technologies of interest to JEDEC.
ANSI/EIA-656-A UPDATE
Bob Ross stated that he sent out the note to the IBIS reflectors after
receiving notification from Cecilia Fleming that IBIS Version 3.2 is now
officially ANSI/EIA-656-A as of September 21, 1999.
Cecilia reported that she sent out a press release to 140 publications.
Bob asked that we formally vote on the release of ANSI/EIA-656-A to IEC for
international ratification.
This was approved by unanimous vote.
Cecilia indicated that IBIS Version 3.2 would probably follow as IEC 62014-2
and replace IEC 62014-1. In the mean time, we are continuing with IEC 62014-1
document preparations.
IBIS (EAST) USERS GROUP MEETINGS
Bob Ross noted that a meeting was held on Wednesday, September 15, 1999 to
work on IBIS Summit Meeting plans. The ideas have been incorporated in the
agenda.
IBIS SUMMIT OCTOBER 14, 1999
Bob Ross reported on the IBIS Summit meeting scheduled on Thursday, October
14, 1999 at Marlborough, Massachusetts during the week of the PCB Conference
East. Kathy Breda sent out another announcement notice on Friday, September
14, 1999. Current Sponsors are NESA, Cadence, HyperLynx, and Praegitzer
Design. Kathy had reported that about 18 people are officially signed up.
We know of several others who are attending, and Bob expects about 30 to 40.
Along with a few presentations, we are focusing more on interactive
roundtable discussions on some topics of current interest. Everyone is
welcome to bring a few backup slides (versus a formal presentations) on points
that you might want to raise. (Blank overheads will also be available for
interactive discussions.)
Bob reviewed the agenda to date. Lynne Green's presentation on "Model Design:
Tables and Equations" previously announced needs to postponed to the next IBIS
Summit due to an unexpected family situation preventing her from attending.
Also, the Connector Specification discussion will be part of a broader
discussion on IBIS Version 4.0 features. (Work is continuing on the Connector
Specification, but it is not ready for full discussion yet.)
After reviewing the contents and rearranging some times, the draft agenda
will be sent out by Kathy on Friday, October 1, 1999 and the final meeting
agenda on Thursday, October 7, 1999. The draft agenda that was sent out is
is given below:
8:30 AM MORNING REFRESHMENTS (from the Sponsors)
9:00 AM Introductions and Business
Bob Ross, Mentor Graphics
Ed Sayre North East Systems Associates (NESA)
9:30 AM "Making the IBIS Specification More Readable"
Roy Leventhal, 3Com
10:00 AM "Model Extraction Based on Differential TDR"
Steven Corey, Time Domain Analysis Systems
10:30 AM BREAK (Refreshments from Sponsors)
10:45 AM Roundtable - Accuracy Specification
Bob Haller, Compaq (Leader)
12:00 PM LUNCH (Provided to Attendees by the Sponsors)
1:00 PM Roundtable - Input Modeling Discussion
Stephen Peters, Intel (Leader)
2:00 PM Roundtable - IBIS Version 4.0 Features Discussion
Bob Ross, Mentor Graphics (Leader)
2:30 PM BREAK (Refreshments from Praegitzer Design)
2:45 PM "Proposed Improvements to the SPICE to IBIS Tool"
Mohamed Nasef, Mentor Graphics
3:15 PM Roundtable - Spice to IBIS Discussion
Mike LaBonte, Cadence
4:00 PM Roundtable - Future of User Group Discussion
Ed Sayre, NESA (Leader)
5:00 PM FINAL BUSINESS AND ADJOURN
Raj Rahuram commented that this meeting overlaps with PCB East and causes
some people who need to be at the show to miss the meeting. Bob thought
that the meeting spanned five days, but also noted that perhaps another day
that avoids the trade show portion might have been better.
S2IBIS3 COMMITTEE REPORT
Michael Cohen reported on the meeting held on September 30, 1999. The main
item of business was to work through items of a draft requirements document
initially prepared by Syed Huq.
The next subcommittee meeting is scheduled on October 7, 1999. Michael
hopes the requirements document will be finished by the end of October 1999.
IBIS DUES AND FUNDING
At the September 10, 1999 meeting the subject of IBIS dues and funding was
initially introduced. Bob Ross opened the discussion by noting that the
main problem is that the IBIS Open Forum brings in about $15,000 per year,
but the EIA Budget for the IBIS Committee is about $22,000. Bob commented
that our dues structure is very low compared to other organizations, and
we need provide reasonable support to EIA for staffing and expenses for the
services that we receive. This support is shared by all member committees.
However, the actual budget numbers for 1999 (which were never discussed with
the Committee) contain some false assumptions and misunderstandings. Also,
Cecilia Fleming noted that one of the expense items for EIA booths will no
longer be allocated to committees. Furthermore, Bob noted that the Committee
only controls several thousand dollars out of the total amount, mostly for
the expenses associated with June IBIS Summit Meeting held during the Design
Automation Conference.
Bob sent out some adjusted raw data from Cecilia to the IBIS reflector of the
known budget items:
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EIA Electronic Industries Alliance
EIG Electrical Information Group
DAD Design Automation Division
IBIS EIA IBIS Open Forum
INCOME
IBIS Membership Dues $15,000
Fees & Assessments Used only for Direct Expenses
EXPENSES
Basis:
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IBIS EIG DAD EIA Direct
Budget Budget Budget Alloc. Expense
Salaries and Benefits $9,000 5%
Interest Expense Not Allocated
Occupancy 610 5%
Bad debts Not Allocated
Depreciation 250 5%
Printing 200 20%
Postage 300 20%
Freight & Delivery 100 20%
Travel & Entertainment 1,400 20%
Telephone 200 20%
Meetings and Conference Exp. 2,400 20%
Professional Services X
Memberships & Subscriptions Not Allocated
Web Site Services Not Allocated
Advertising & Promotions 1,000 20%
Show Expenses (Deleted)
Office Supplies & Misc. 100 20%
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Total Exp. Before Corp. Alloc. 15,560
Corporate EIA 6,200 X
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Total Expenses 21,760
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More recent data raised the Corporate EIA expense to about 7,700.
Stephen Peters raised concern that some of the items seemed to be keyed off
of income. If dues are raised, then the allocation expenses would also be
raised. So the IBIS Committee will always be in the red.
Cecilia stated that the year 2000 budget is being worked on and will be
discussed at an EIA Board meeting on October 24, 1999. Fewer items will be
allocated directly to the committees. The committees should have direct
control over more expenses. Bob plans to meet with EIA staff on October 15,
1999.
Bob noted that while the dues are low, many members do contribute much more
in a number of ways. For example, most of the IBIS Summit Meetings are
funded by sponsorship companies, and the teleconference bridges are donated.
The current dues levels allows the IBIS Open Forum to gain participation of
to provide a broad base of support. Bob asked what people thought their
companies would be willing to pay. Several people reported that dues up to
around $1000 would be tolerable. Michael Cohen and others commented that some
of the larger companies are more limited since the funding is actually not
from the overall corporation, but usually from a smaller group within (with
tighter budget controls). Matthew Flora suggested that a lower dues number
such as $500 be retained for very small companies (for example with five or
less people).
Currently, there is no meaningful reporting by EIA that relates to any
direct expenses or additional income sources. If dues were raised, Bob would
want meaningful reporting of actual income and expenses so that we can
carry over our accumulated funds from year to year.
Bob asked Guy de Burgh to assist in keeping track of the IBIS direct income
and expenses as an added role to the Secretary function.
COOKBOOK STATUS
Stephen Peters had no report.
IBIS MODEL REVIEW COMMITTEE DISCUSSION
Matthew Flora reported that he sent out for review an IBIS model from Intel.
IBISCHK3 BUG REPORT STATUS
Bob Ross reported that Atul Agarwal agreed to provide the fixes for BUG36 and
BUG37. We will hold the code until more bugs are fixed since the above bugs
were minor.
Matthew stated that he will now work on BUG34 suggestions with respect to the
existing AR:
AR - Matthew Flora issue a revised BUG34 to document the conditions where
Warning messages are issued.
BIRD62 - ENHANCED CHARACTERIZATION OF RECEIVER THRESHOLDS (discussed First)
Stephen peters commented BIRD62, first discussed at the September 10, 1999
meeting, introduced the separate keyword [Receiver Thresholds], The team
felt that [Model Spec] did not apply for this situation. The new keyword is
sensitive only to voltage, but not to process and temperature.
Bob Ross stated that he did have concerns about the new syntax, but also
recognized that some of specifications of the new keyword regarding keeping
a constant voltage difference over the threshold region would be difficult
to specify with the [Model Spec] keyword. Furthermore, the new approach is
more consistent with data sheet specifications for some of the newer
technologies.
Stephen still plans to respond to some of the comments and provide an updated
BIRD62.1. Bob still had some concerns over syntax details.
BIRD63 - DOCUMENTATION OF RECEIVER SETUP AND HOLD TIMING CONDITIONS
Bob Ross noted that the resolution of the syntax issues of BIRD62 would
apply to BIRD63 for receiver setup and hold timing conditions. Thus, he did
not provide any comments on BIRD63.
BIRD61 - ENHANCED CHARACTERIZATION OF RECEIVERS
Stephen Peters commented that we still plans to update BIRD61 in respond to
IBIS reflector discussions. He is still seeking EDA vendor ideas on
algorithms or working models to process the tables for receiver delay changes
versus some input parameters.
Matthew Flora stated that D.C. Sessions presented a "chalk talk" at the
February 1, 1999 IBIS Summit Meeting showing that delay adjustments fit very
well a two-thirds power function of input overdrive.
Bob Ross stated that there still remain four general alternatives to process
the data:
1) Characterize the input into parameters and
a) find the delay from the table by interpolation, or
b) find the delay from an estimation formula (such as the 2/3rds power
relationship),
2) Develop in input model which will process actual receiver inputs and
a) have the model output a delay adjustment value, or
b) have the model output a waveform from which the delay adjustment
can be measured. An example of such a processor would be the
Spice model itself or some reduction of it.
We still need to have an idea on how the data is to be processed so that we
know that we are specifying the appropriate type of data and have provided
a sufficient amount of data. Discussion will continue until we reach some
kind of resolution.
APPLICATION PROGRAM INTERFACE (API) DISCUSSION
The meeting was extended by fifteen minutes. Will Hobbs introduced the "food
for thought" need for an Application Program Interface (API) by noted that
IBIS Versions 1.1, 2.1 and 3.2 all have successfully addressed emerging
requirements. However, the process is slow, and newer requirements for
timing analysis with picosecond resolution and simultaneous switching outputs
make IBIS challenges even more difficult. Adoption of IBIS keywords for
leading edge technologies such as behavioral receivers will take time.
One solution is to provide the existing functionality in a manner that
protects intellectual property. Will proposed the possibility of C set of
procedures that might pass information on initial conditions, pin lists, pin
definition, time steps, and voltage and currents at each pin. The simulation
kernel could be a proprietary Spice or a public-domain Spice. The executable
would include the simulation engine or else reference the public domain
simulation engine (this could be more efficient since the simulation engine
would not be copied in each executable). Models with advanced features could
then be provided in a more timely manner. These would be vendor neutral
models.
A discussion followed and some of the comments are noted here.
Arpad Muranyi questioned why this was different than encrypted models that
could be provided. Will stated that the simulation engine was provided or
else a public domain simulator could be used.
Raj Raghuram stated that C and C++ interfaces were easy to do, and Berkeley
Spice supported user defined functions. Will stated that the intent was
to use existing Spice constructs. Arpad commented that since many companies
use features of internal proprietary Spices, translation to public domain
Spices might be difficult.
Mike LaBonte stated that interprocess communication between an IBIS simulator
and a such a model was possible. He noted several difficulties:
1) time step concerns related to convergence
2) platform support for the compiled executables
3) how to generate the model
Will also added size and speed concerns. Will and Mike thought the number
of platforms to support was not that large (Windows, and several flavors of
UNIX.) Convergence would be made easier by passing initial conditions.
Mike also stated that the model was easy to validate by the provider since
it was based on the original source model. A C based model would just mimic
the functionality and would need to be validated.
Raj noted that binaries with function calls could be constructed. Mike
stated that with executables, no encryption was needed. Encrypted models
are difficult to use.
Matthew Flora commented that perhaps a script interface could be used. Mike
stated that this is essentially how Spice is handled.
Will added that an API may make it possible to interface with IMIC. The
current problem is that IMIC still requires revealing structural details.
Mike added that IMIC would not be handled any differently than structural
based Spice Models, although IMIC does contain an IBIS like wrapper
statements for connections. Raj added that Berkeley Spice is still a good
starting point at providing interfaces. Arpad commented that convergence
issues might still be a general concern.
Bob Ross stated that this discussion could be continued as an agenda item
and eventually could evolve into a BIRD for more detailed discussion.
CONNECTOR PROPOSAL STATUS
Not Discussed
NEXT MEETING:
The next meeting will be the IBIS Summit Meeting at Marlboro, Massachusetts
on Thursday, October 14, 1999 from 8:30 AM to 5 PM. Teleconference lines
will NOT be available.
The next teleconference meeting will be on Friday, October 29, 1999 from 8:00
AM to 10:00 AM.
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NOTES
IBIS CHAIR: Bob Ross (503) 685-0732, Fax (503) 685-4897
bob_ross@mentor.com
Modeling Engineer, Mentor Graphics
8005 S.W. Boeckman Road, Wilsonville, OR 97070
VICE CHAIR: Stephen Peters (503) 264-4108, Fax: (503) 264-4515
sjpeters@ichips.intel.com
Senior Hardware Engineer, Intel Corporation
M/S JF1-209
2111 NE 25th Ave.
Hillsboro, OR 97124-5961
SECRETARY: Guy de Burgh (805) 988-8250, Fax: (805) 988-8259
gdeburgh@viewlogic.com
Senior Manager, Viewlogic Systems
1369 Del Norte Rd.
Camarillo, CA 93010-8437
LIBRARIAN: Jon Powell (805) 988-8250, Fax: (805) 988-8259
jonp@qdt.com
Senior Scientist, Viewlogic Systems
1369 Del Norte Rd.
Camarillo, CA 93010
WEBMASTER: Syed Huq (408) 525-3399, Fax: (408) 526-5504
shuq@cisco.com
Signal Integrity Engineer, Cisco Systems
170 West Tasman Drive
San Jose, CA 95134-1706
POSTMASTER: Matthew Flora (425) 869-2320, Fax: (425) 881-1008
mbflora@hyperlynx.com
Senior Engineer, HyperLynx, Inc.
114715 N.E. 95th Street
Redmond, WA 98052
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