RE: [IBIS] EIA IBIS Open Forum Minutes (05/31/02)


Subject: RE: [IBIS] EIA IBIS Open Forum Minutes (05/31/02)
From: Mirmak, Michael (michael.mirmak@intel.com)
Date: Thu Jun 06 2002 - 14:09:10 PDT


I would like to make an alternate suggestion. Perhaps the IBIS Open Forum
could create an "IBIS Parser Certification Program," similar to what certain
companies do with hardware or software which, after passing certification
criteria, is labeled with a compliance sticker.

This would allow anyone to write and distribute an IBIS parser with either
Forum code or their own code, but would keep the Open Forum as the
controller and certifier of the "gold standard" for parsers. Vendors could
be assured that their own parsers, once checked and "stickered," meet a
certain standard of quality yet still add extra checks and features. Model
users could assure themselves that the models they create, regardless of
under what certified tool set, meet minimum Open Forum standards.
Universities and students, among others, could be free to distribute and use
uncertified code, but they would be taking the risk that their parsers might
not be up to Forum standards. Not having a sticker or certification would
signify "caveat emptor" to prospective purchasers or users.

Of course, this would mean that the IBIS Open Forum would have to support
the writing of a "parser spec" and the testing of parsers.

- Michael Mirmak
  Intel Corp.

The opinions expressed above do not necessarily reflect those of my
employer, Intel Corp.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lynne Green [mailto:lgreen@cadence.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:14 PM
To: ibis@eda.org
Subject: RE: [IBIS] EIA IBIS Open Forum Minutes (05/31/02)

Actually, there are a lot of companies that have an interest in
development. And they are not all EDA vendors, as one can
see by looking at the IBIS Roster. Furthermore, Open Forum
participation and BIRDs come from model makers and users,
not just EDA vendors. These member companies are active
participants in IBIS development.

Al Davis wrote:
<snip>
> Actually, the current funding model doesn't work. There is more to
> it than making a parser to a spec. The current model provides no
> incentive for anyone but a proprietary EDA vendor to take any
> interest in development. It is particularly offensive to the
> academic and open source communities.
<snip>

Best regards,
Lynne

Dr. Lynne Green
Senior Member of Consulting Staff
PCB Systems Division
Cadence Design Systems, Inc.

"All the world's an analog stage, whereon digital plays bit parts."

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