RE: [IBIS] HSPICE encryption (was HyperLynx)


Subject: RE: [IBIS] HSPICE encryption (was HyperLynx)
From: Dunbar, Tony (tony_dunbar@mentorg.com)
Date: Thu Oct 31 2002 - 07:37:19 PST


Just out of interest, what is the encryption scheme used in HSPICE and
similar tools and how robust are they regarded to be in these days of
hackers?

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammad Ali [mailto:mohammad.ali@tellabs.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:02 AM
To: Stacy L Gore
Cc: ibis@server.eda.org; owner-ibis@server.eda.org; SKWONG@altera.com
Subject: Re: [IBIS] HyperLynx

This is true. But the major limitation with ICX3.0 I found is that it
does not
allow encrypted spice IO models. Unfortunately, almost all IC vendors
provide
only encrypted IO models(& transistor library) even under NDA
disclosure
and they only runs with Avanti! hpsice tool. I can't take advantage of
the
new ICX3.0 spice feature in such circumstances. However, the old feature
of
extracting the topology in spice format, hooking up spice models
externally and
running under hspice is a work around solution for the above limitation.

-Mohammad

modelStacy L Gore wrote:
>
> Another alternative is the new Mentor ICX3.0 which can co-simulate IBIS
and
> SPICE (and VHDL-AMS) models without the need of an external SPICE
simulator
> or license.
>
> Stacy L. Gore
> Hardware Engineering Staff
> Raytheon - Garland Site
> Phone - (972) 205-4208
> Fax - (972) 205-4445
>
>
> Mohammad Ali
> <mohammad.ali@te To: Shee Kian Wong
<SKWONG@altera.com>
> llabs.com> cc:
ibis@server.eda.org
> Sent by: Subject: Re: [IBIS]
HyperLynx
> owner-ibis@serve
> r.eda.org
>
>
> 10/31/2002 08:10
> AM
>
>
>
> > Shee Kian Wong wrote:
> >
> Cadence Specctraquest has a new feature that allow users to mix IBIS
> and SPICE IO models and perform pre- and post-layout analysis. The
> only pre-requisite for this is
>
> 1. a hspice licence should be available
> 2. need some preliminary work to build a macro models for both IBIS
> and spice with some wrap-around lines.
>
> I have successfully used this approach recently.
>
> -Mohammad
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Can HyperLynx simulate both IBIS and SPICE models (for example, using
> > SPICE models as driver and IBIS models as receiver)?
> >
> > If it can't, can anyone suggest a tool that can perform this?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shee Kian
>
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