============================================================================== IBIS INTERCONNECT TASK GROUP Mailing list: ibis-interconnect@freelists.org ============================================================================== Attendees from March 11, 2026 Meeting (* means attended at least using audio) Chipletz Stephen Newberry Intel Corp. Michael Mirmak* MathWorks Walter Katz* Siemens EDA Weston Beal, Arpad Muranyi*, Randy Wolff* Synopsys Ted Mido, Edna Moreno ============================================================================== Michael Mirmak called the meeting to order. No patents were declared. Michael noted that the minutes for several previous meetings were not yet available; these include the meeting minutes for March 4 and February 18. Michael reviewed the latest version of the Port Mapping proposal. Arpad Muranyi asked what the meaning of A_gnd is for Probe. Walter Katz added that he did not like the use of "common" for references. For references, there is no "common" but only "local". Randy Wolff noted that Probe formatting must use X:Y:Z syntax. Michael asked whether A_gnd should be disallowed entirely for Probe. Randy noted that the Probe location, including the reference, will be related to the pitch of the probe. An optional best-known method should be prepared to note how the Probe notation relates to actual lab measurement. Walter proposed that perhaps this doesn't matter - Probe exists to show how the original data can be reproduced. Michael asked whether A_gnd should similarly be removed for Logical. Randy suggested that, for a symbol using 2N port referencing notation, some instruction may be needed to suggest to those using the symbol in a schematic to "hook that node to node zero". Arpad noted that he was tempted to recommend that any Logical negative terminal name should match the positive name but with the "-" sign added. Randy replied that the Logical reference terminal is essentially a comment. Arpad asked how one would indicate the correct reference in a symbol - if you connect two ports together from different components, the positive and negative terminals should share names. [Arpad later revised this in a message to the Interconnect participants; the negative terminal need not share a name with the positive terminal for Logical] Walter noted that, during symbol creation, the symbol will contain any information needed for connections. Arpad replied that the Logical structure provides labels to help people connect a given element. Randy added that there must be some way to distinguish a good label and a bad label for a given symbol. Michael noted that Example 2A shows Probe reference terminals with specific X:Y:Z locations. Arpad suggested that, if these are labels, Port 1 could have a Logical reference of "Alice" and Port 2 could have a Logical reference of "Bob". The discussion was ended due to lack of time. Randy moved to adjourn the meeting; Walter seconded. The meeting adjourned.