Hi, Radovan and Syed, If coupling is required in the MCP/MCM model, then one could consider an IBIS ICM (InterConnect Model). - Lynne "IBIS training when you need it, where you need it." Dr. Lynne Green Green Streak Programs http://www.greenstreakprograms.com 425-788-0412 lgreen22@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-ibis-users@eda.org [mailto:owner-ibis-users@eda.org] On Behalf Of Syed Huq (shuq) Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:45 AM To: Radovan.Vuletic@infineon.com; ibis-users@eda.org Subject: RE: [IBIS-Users] Multi Chip Packages Hi I am not sure if you are familiar with the IBIS EBD(Electrical Board Description) models. Currently DIMM modules that has multiple components on it can be modeled with this EBD modeling scheme. Layout parasitics (uncoupled) along with all the IBIS component models are put together in this EBD format. Externally, users only see the pinout of the DIMM. I believe the MCPs can also be done in a similar fashion. http://eda.org/pub/ibis/ver4.1/ver4_1.pdf (see section8) Regards, Syed Vice-Chair ANSI/EIA-656A Cisco Systems, Inc -----Original Message----- From: owner-ibis-users@eda.org [mailto:owner-ibis-users@eda.org] On Behalf Of Radovan.Vuletic@infineon.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:14 AM To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: [IBIS-Users] Multi Chip Packages Hi IBIS Experts, I am not so long here on this forum, but I have never seen that somebody has discussed a Multi Chip Package topics. The number of MCP's is growing, but I think there is still no solution how should be MCP's and especially their Packages handled by IBIS. Are there any ideas, cookbooks, procedures, recommendations etc. how to handle them? Sooner or later everybody from us will have to make an IBIS model for one MCP and it would be nice if we all do it on unique way and not by applying our special solutions for which we think that are correct ... Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / S po¹tovanjem Radovan Vuletiæ Infineon Technologies AG MP PD PDE Room 03.911 Balanstraße 73 D-81541 München Phone: +49 (0)89 234 20108 Fax: +49 (0)89 234 27705 Fax (PC): +49 (0)89 234 955 5305 E-mail: radovan.vuletic@infineon.com |------------------------------------------------------------------ |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, email majordomo@eda.org with just |the appropriate command message(s) in the body: | | help | subscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | subscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | |or email a written request to ibis-request@eda.org. | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993 |------------------------------------------------------------------ |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, email majordomo@eda.org with just |the appropriate command message(s) in the body: | | help | subscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | subscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | |or email a written request to ibis-request@eda.org. | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993 |------------------------------------------------------------------ |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, email majordomo@eda.org |with just the appropriate command message(s) in the body: | | help | subscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | subscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | |or email a written request to ibis-request@eda.org. | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993Received on Fri Nov 4 10:19:19 2005
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