From: owner-ibis-users@eda.org (ibis-users) To: ibis-users-digest@eda.org Subject: ibis-users V1 #246 Reply-To: Sender: owner-ibis-users@eda.org Errors-To: owner-ibis-users@eda.org Precedence: bulk ibis-users Wednesday, October 15 2014 Volume 01 : Number 246 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:13:30 -0700 From: "Bob Ross" Subject: [IBIS-Users] Asian IBIS Summit (Shanghai) - Second Announcement This is a multipart message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CFDCF3.62E1C2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To All: The IBIS Open Forum is holding an Asian IBIS Summit Meeting in Shanghai, China on Friday, November 14, 2014. Several companies listed below are co-sponsoring this large event to be held again at the Parkyard Hotel, Shanghai. We encourage technical contributions from Asia. For travel consideration, two other Asian IBIS Summits follow this event: Taipei, Taiwan, Monday, November 17, Sherwood Hotel Yokohama, Japan, Thursday, November 20, Pacifico Yokohama Announcements for these Summits will be issued later. Lance Wang IO Methodology Inc. Bob Ross Teraspeed Labs - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ASIAN IBIS SUMMIT (SHANGHAI) SECOND CALL FOR PARTICIPATION AND PRESENTATIONS - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.eda.org/ibis/summits/nov14a/announcement_chinese.pdf ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A S I A N I B I S S U M M I T ( S H A N G H A I ) Time/Date: Friday, November 14, 2014, 8:00 AM to 5:30 PM Meeting starts at 9:00 AM Location: Parkyard Hotel Shanghai 699 Bibo Road Zhangjiang Hi-Tech Park Shanghai 201203 P.R. China http://www.parkyard.com/en/hotel_index.aspx?currenthotelid=6 Content: Presentations and Discussions Purpose: Solicit and exchange IBIS and interconnect model related information and ideas. Primary Sponsor: Huawei Technologies Co-sponsors (in alphabetical order): ANSYS, IO Methodology, Synopsys, ZTE Corporation, and others TBD Cost: FREE, including refreshments and buffet lunch Vendors: Some vendors will have information tables Contact us for details regarding sponsorship. BACKGROUND We have held nine successful meetings in Shenzhen, Shanghai and Beijing. This year we are meeting again in Shanghai where many Chinese and foreign high technology companies operate. These events are archived along with all our other Summits: http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/summits/ Our objective is to reach out internationally to communicate with the local experts and to learn of regional concerns. CONFERENCE LANGUAGE The conference language is English, but we will plan for technical translations in English and Mandarin. So presenters can optionally deliver in Mandarin as long as an English version of the material is available. IBIS SUMMIT This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBIS Summit Meeting. Presentations will be archived in an electronic format on our Summits site, and minutes of the meeting will be issued. However, no formal decisions requiring votes will be planned. CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS People involved in IBIS and interconnect model development, EDA tool development, and digital circuit design are invited to participate in the Summit meeting. If you plan to participate, please register using the information below (in English): Name: E-mail address: Company: Top-level Web Link: Country: Send to BOTH: Lance Wang, IO Methodology Inc. lwang@iometh.com Bob Ross, Teraspeed Labs bob@teraspeedlabs.com SIGNUP DEADLINE: November 10, 2014 CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS We are seeking presentations from individuals who have IBIS and interconnect modeling experiences or issues. If we have to select presentations for the number of time slots available, we will give preferential consideration to presentations from Asia. Presentation Format: LCD Projection from meeting laptop computer Time: 15-30 Minutes including questions Electronic Archival: All presentations will uploaded to our public IBIS Summit archives Electronic Format: Power Point or Acrobat Presentation Booklet: Available at the meeting for all attendees Presentation Deadline: October 17, 2014 to produce the presentation booklet for the meeting If you plan a presentation, please ADD to the above registration information: Title of Presentation: Estimated Time: (30 minutes or less) We will notify you of acceptance and may follow up with questions when we form the program agenda. Note: Vendor promotional or business information is prohibited. Submitted presentations must be in English, although the delivery can be in Mandarin. Submissions from Asia are encouraged along with other submissions world-wide. Topics may include behavioral modeling of buffers, interconnects or other system components. AGENDA 8:15 - 9:00 Vendor table setup and tables 8:30 - 9:00 Sign in 9:00 - 12:00 Presentations 12:00 - 13:30 Free buffet lunch, vendor tables 13:30 - 17:00 Presentations The specific agenda is being developed. We expect nine or ten presentations covering a range of issues from existing customer experiences, existing clarifications and some future technical directions in IBIS. Several major IBIS Committee presentations from IBIS officers or active members are planned. Several presentations on IBIS applications and behavioral modeling issues, including interconnects and system components, are expected from co-sponsor companies and/or their customers. LIST OF NEARBY HOTELS AND TRAVEL RULES Hotels in all price ranges can be found through internet searches. Comply with your travel rules, such as indicated in the link below to China and Shanghai. Work with your travel agent. Notify us as a sign-up comment if you need assistance. Visas, if needed, should fall in the visit/business category: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1089.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Bob Ross Teraspeed Labs http://www.teraspeedlabs.com bob@teraspeedlabs.com Direct: 503-246-8048 Office: 971-279-5325 - -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CFDCF3.62E1C2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To All:

 

The IBIS Open Forum is hold= ing an Asian IBIS Summit Meeting in

Shanghai, = China on Friday, November 14, 2014.

 = ;

Several companies listed below are co-sponsoring = this large event

to be held again at the Par= kyard Hotel, Shanghai.

 

We encourage technical contributions from Asia.

 

For travel consideration= , two other Asian IBIS Summits follow this

eve= nt:

 

 = Taipei, Taiwan, Monday, November 17, Sherwood Hotel

<= p class=3DMsoPlainText>  Yokohama, Japan, Thursday, November 20, Pacifico Yokohama

 

Announcements= for these Summits will be issued later.

=  

Lance Wang

IO M= ethodology Inc.

 

Bob Ross

Teraspeed Labs

 

 

 

---------------------------= - --------------------------------------------

=             &nb= sp;          ASIAN IBIS SUMMIT= (SHANGHAI)

     &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;          SECOND CALL FOR=

       &nb= sp;            =   PARTICIPATION AND PRESENTATIONS

-------= - ----------------------------------------------------------------=

 

http://www.eda.org/i= bis/summits/nov14a/announcement_chinese.pdf

=  

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

        &nbs= p;  A S I A N   I B I S   S U M M I T   = ( S H A N G H A I )

 

Time/Date:  Friday, November 14, 2014, 8:00 AM to 5:30 PM

        =     Meeting starts at 9:00 AM

=  

Location:   Parkyard Hotel Sh= anghai

      &nb= sp;     699 Bibo Road

&nbs= p;           Zhangjiang H= i-Tech Park

     &nbs= p;      Shanghai 201203

 

&nbs= p;     http://www.parkyard.com/en/hotel_index.aspx?curr= enthotelid=3D6

 

Content:    Presentations and Discussions

 

Purpose:  &nb= sp; Solicit and exchange IBIS and interconnect model related

          =   information and ideas.

=  

Primary Sponsor:

 &nb= sp;          Huawei Technologi= es

 

Co-spon= sors (in alphabetical order):

=   &nbs= p;         ANSYS, IO Methodology, S= ynopsys, ZTE Corporation, and others TBD

=  

Cost:       FR= EE, including refreshments and buffet lunch

=  

Vendors:    Some vendors= will have information tables

=  

         &= nbsp;  Contact us for details regarding sponsorship.=

 

BACKGROUND

 

   We have held = nine successful meetings in Shenzhen, Shanghai and Beijing.

   This year we are meeting again in Shanghai where= many Chinese and

   foreign high t= echnology companies operate.  These events are archived

   along with all our other Summits:

 

    = ; http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/summits/

&n= bsp;

   Our objective is to reach out int= ernationally to communicate with

   = the local experts and to learn of regional concerns.

<= p class=3DMsoPlainText> 

CONFERENCE LANGUAGE

 

   The confe= rence language is English, but we will plan for technical=

   translations in English and Mandarin.  So pre= senters can optionally

   deliver in= Mandarin as long as an English version of the material is

   available.

&nbs= p;

IBIS SUMMIT

&n= bsp;

   This meeting will be conducted as= a formal IBIS Summit Meeting.

   Pr= esentations will be archived in an electronic format on our

   Summits site, and minutes of the meeting will be= issued.  However,

   no formal= decisions requiring votes will be planned.

=  

CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS=

 

   People involve= d in IBIS and interconnect model development, EDA

   tool development, and digital circuit design are invited t= o

   participate in the Summit meeti= ng.  If you plan to participate,

 &n= bsp; please register using the information below (in English):

 

   &nbs= p; Name:

     E-mail addre= ss:

 

 =     Company:

   =   Top-level Web Link:

 

     Country:

 

   Send to BOTH:

 

<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>   = ;  Lance Wang, IO Methodology Inc.      =    lwang@iometh.com

=   &nbs= p;  Bob Ross, Teraspeed Labs       =          bob@teraspeedlabs.com=

 

 

   SIGNUP DEADLINE: November 10, 2014<= /o:p>

 

CALL FOR PRESEN= TATIONS

 

=    We are seeking presentations from individuals who have IBIS an= d

   interconnect modeling experienc= es or issues.  If we have to

  = select presentations for the number of time slots available, we=

   will give preferential consideration to pre= sentations from Asia.

 =

   Presentation Format:   LCD Projection fr= om meeting laptop computer

 

   Time:      &nbs= p;           15-30 Minute= s including questions

 =

   Electronic Archival:   All presentations= will uploaded to our public

<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>   = ;            &n= bsp;          IBIS Summit arch= ives

 

 = ;  Electronic Format:     Power Point or Acrobat

 

  = ; Presentation Booklet:  Available at the meeting for all attendees

 

  = Presentation Deadline: October 17, 2014 to produce the presentation

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;    booklet for the meeting

   If you plan a presentati= on, please ADD to the above registration

 = ;  information:

 <= /p>

     Title of Presentation:

 

     E= stimated Time:

     &= nbsp; (30 minutes or less)

 

   We will notify you of acceptance and may foll= ow up with questions

   when we form= the program agenda.

 <= /p>

   Note: Vendor promotional or business information is= prohibited.

   Submitted presentati= ons must be in English, although the delivery

=    can be in Mandarin.

 

   Submissions from Asia are encouraged al= ong with other submissions

   world-= wide.  Topics may include behavioral modeling of buffers,

   interconnects or other system components.

 

AGENDA

 

=    8:1= 5 -   9:00  Vendor table setup and tables<= /p>

   8:30 -   9:00  Sign in

   9:00 -  12:00  Presentations

   12:00 - 13:30  Free buffet lunch, v= endor tables

   13:30 - 17:00  = Presentations

 

   The specific agenda is being developed.  We expect ni= ne or ten

   presentations covering = a range of issues from existing customer

 = ;  experiences, existing clarifications and some future technical=

   directions in IBIS.=

 

   Several major = IBIS Committee presentations from IBIS officers or

   active members are planned.

=  

   Several presentations on I= BIS applications and behavioral modeling

 = ;  issues, including interconnects and system components, are expected=

   from co-sponsor companies and/or= their customers.

 

LIST OF NEARBY HOTELS AND TRAVEL RULES

   Hotels in all price rang= es can be found through internet searches.

 

   Comply with your travel rules= , such as indicated in the link

   b= elow to China and Shanghai.  Work with your travel agent.  Notify=

   us as a sign-up comment if you n= eed assistance.  Visas, if needed,

 =   should fall in the visit/business category:

 

     http://tr= avel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1089.html

 

-----------------------------------= - ------------------------------

 

--

 

Bob Ross

Teraspeed Labs

http://www.teraspee= dlabs.com

bob@teraspeedlabs.com<= /o:p>

Direct: 503-246-8048

Office: 971-279-5325

 


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<= div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helve= tica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">= I am not very expert in IBIS modelling and have very small query. In our sy= stem, we have tool which generate IBIS file and contain information about r= ise and fall waveform. In current scenario, I have to change r_fixture valu= e and need to generate IBIS file. I am able to generate IBIS file and conta= in all data points. I want to very all data points which is present in IBIS= file. Is there any tool/mythology available to  verify IBIS data poin= ts. I have run ibischk5 and did not get any error. In brief, I want to veri= fy all points
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= Thanks
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Skype : a= bhishekgoswami1

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Hi Arpad

Since "Series Model"= does not support reactive elements, what would be a good way to model L an= d/or C present between inverting and non-inverting pins of any true differe= ntial buffer? Specifically w.r.t IBIS-AMI, could we consider taking s param= eters of Tx and rx buffers?

thanks
Shiva= ni

On = Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Muranyi, Arpad <Arpad_Muranyi@mentor= .com> wrote:

Shivani,

=C2=A0

1)=C2=A0 Yes.

2)=C2=A0 Look at the 3D surface of Idiff, as shown= in fig. 4.16 on

pg. 36 in the IBIS cookbook http://www.eda.org/ibis/cookbook/cookbook-v4.pdf.

If the surface is flat, i.e. its edges are straight you have

a linear (resistive) differential current.=C2=A0 (It doesn=E2=80= =99t have

to be horizontal, but it should not have a curvature to it in

any direction).=C2=A0 In this case you can use [R Series].=C2=A0 I= f there

is a curvature in one or two directions, you will need to use

[Series Current] or [Series MOSFET].=C2=A0 We do not model reactiv= e

characteristics with I-V curves, so L and C doesn=E2=80=99t come i= nto

this picture.

3)=C2=A0 Vds is the voltage between the non-invert= ing and inverting terminals

of the buffer.=C2=A0 Look at pg. 51 in the IBIS Cookbook to see th= e

explanation for Vtable.

4)=C2=A0 Sorry, I do not have an example for you.<= u>

=C2=A0

I hope this helps.

=C2=A0

Arpad

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From: owner-ibis-users@eda= .org [mailto:owner-ibis-users@eda.org] On Behalf Of Shivani Sharma
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:04 AM
To: ibis-use= rs@eda.org
Cc: mi= kelabonte@eda-stds.org
Subject: [IBIS-Users] true differential buffer IBIS modelling=

=C2=A0

Hi all

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i have a couple of queries related to IBIS modelling= of truely differential buffers

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Thanks

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We encourage technical contributions from Asia. For travel consideration, two other Asian IBIS Summits follow this event: Taipei, Taiwan, Monday, November 17, Sherwood Hotel Yokohama, Japan, Thursday, November 20, Pacifico Yokohama Announcements for these Summits will be issued later. Lance Wang IO Methodology Inc. Bob Ross Teraspeed Labs - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ASIAN IBIS SUMMIT (SHANGHAI) THIRD CALL FOR PARTICIPATION AND PRESENTATIONS - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.eda.org/ibis/summits/nov14a/announcement_chinese.pdf ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A S I A N I B I S S U M M I T ( S H A N G H A I ) Time/Date: Friday, November 14, 2014, 8:00 AM to 5:30 PM Meeting starts at 9:00 AM Location: Parkyard Hotel Shanghai 699 Bibo Road Zhangjiang Hi-Tech Park Shanghai 201203 P.R. China http://www.parkyard.com/en/hotel_index.aspx?currenthotelid=6 Content: Presentations and Discussions Purpose: Solicit and exchange IBIS and interconnect model related information and ideas. Primary Sponsor: Huawei Technologies Co-sponsors (in alphabetical order): ANSYS Intel Corporation IO Methodology Synopsys Teledyne LeCroy ZTE Corporation Cost: FREE, including refreshments and buffet lunch Vendors: Some vendors will have information tables Contact us for details regarding sponsorship. BACKGROUND We have held nine successful meetings in Shenzhen, Shanghai and Beijing. This year we are meeting again in Shanghai where many Chinese and foreign high technology companies operate. These events are archived along with all our other Summits: http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/summits/ Our objective is to reach out internationally to communicate with the local experts and to learn of regional concerns. CONFERENCE LANGUAGE The conference language is English, but we will plan for technical translations in English and Mandarin. So presenters can optionally deliver in Mandarin as long as an English version of the material is available. IBIS SUMMIT This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBIS Summit Meeting. Presentations will be archived in an electronic format on our Summits site, and minutes of the meeting will be issued. However, no formal decisions requiring votes will be planned. CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS People involved in IBIS and interconnect model development, EDA tool development, and digital circuit design are invited to participate in the Summit meeting. If you plan to participate, please register using the information below (in English): Name: E-mail address: Company: Top-level Web Link: Country: Send to BOTH: Lance Wang, IO Methodology Inc. lwang@iometh.com Bob Ross, Teraspeed Labs bob@teraspeedlabs.com SIGNUP DEADLINE: November 10, 2014 CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS We are seeking presentations from individuals who have IBIS and interconnect modeling experiences or issues. If we have to select presentations for the number of time slots available, we will give preferential consideration to presentations from Asia. Presentation Format: LCD Projection from meeting laptop computer Time: 15-30 Minutes including questions Electronic Archival: All presentations will uploaded to our public IBIS Summit archives Electronic Format: Power Point or Acrobat Presentation Booklet: Available at the meeting for all attendees Presentation Deadline: October 17, 2014 to produce the presentation booklet for the meeting If you plan a presentation, please ADD to the above registration information: Title of Presentation: Estimated Time: (30 minutes or less) We will notify you of acceptance and may follow up with questions when we form the program agenda. Note: Vendor promotional or business information is prohibited. Submitted presentations must be in English, although the delivery can be in Mandarin. Submissions from Asia are encouraged along with other submissions world-wide. Topics may include behavioral modeling of buffers, interconnects or other system components. AGENDA 8:15 - 9:00 Vendor table setup and tables 8:30 - 9:00 Sign in 9:00 - 12:00 Presentations 12:00 - 13:30 Free buffet lunch, vendor tables 13:30 - 17:00 Presentations The specific agenda is being developed. We expect nine or ten presentations covering a range of issues from existing customer experiences, existing clarifications and some future technical directions in IBIS. Several major IBIS Committee presentations from IBIS officers or active members are planned. Several presentations on IBIS applications and behavioral modeling issues, including interconnects and system components, are expected from co-sponsor companies and/or their customers. LIST OF NEARBY HOTELS AND TRAVEL RULES Hotels in all price ranges can be found through internet searches. Comply with your travel rules, such as indicated in the link below to China and Shanghai. Work with your travel agent. Notify us as a sign-up comment if you need assistance. Visas, if needed, should fall in the visit/business category: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1089.html - -- Bob Ross Teraspeed Labs http://www.teraspeedlabs.com bob@teraspeedlabs.com Direct: 503-246-8048 Office: 971-279-5325 - -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - ------=_NextPart_000_0312_01CFE7CB.660FE9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To All:

 

The IBIS Open Forum is holding a= n Asian IBIS Summit Meeting in

Shanghai, China on= Friday, November 14, 2014.

 

Several companies listed below are co-sponsoring this large eve= nt

to be held again at the Parkyard Hotel, Shangh= ai.

 

We encourage= technical contributions from Asia.

 

For travel consideration, two other Asian IBIS Summits = follow this

event:

 

  Taipei, Taiwan, Monday, November 17, S= herwood Hotel

  Yokohama, Japan, Thursday, N= ovember 20, Pacifico Yokohama

 

Announcements for these Summits will be issued later.

 

Lance Wang

IO Methodology Inc.

 

Bob Ross

Teraspeed Labs

 

 

 

--------------------------------= - ---------------------------------------

 &nb= sp;            =          ASIAN IBIS SUMMIT (SHANGHA= I)

       &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        THIRD CALL FOR

          &= nbsp;           PARTICIPA= TION AND PRESENTATIONS

--------------------------= - ---------------------------------------------

 

http://www.eda.org/ibis/summits/nov14a/announ= cement_chinese.pdf

 

 

=   &nbs= p;        A S I A N   I B I S&= nbsp;  S U M M I T   ( S H A N G H A I )

 

Time/Date:  Friday, November 1= 4, 2014, 8:00 AM to 5:30 PM

   &nb= sp;        Meeting starts at 9:00 AM

 

Location: &nbs= p; Parkyard Hotel Shanghai

   &nbs= p;        699 Bibo Road

           = ; Zhangjiang Hi-Tech Park

    = ;        Shanghai 201203

          &nbs= p; P.R. China

 

&n= bsp;     http://www.parkyard.com/en/hotel_index.aspx?cu= rrenthotelid=3D6

 

Content:    Presentations and Discussions=

 

Purpose:    Solici= t and exchange IBIS and interconnect model related

 

Primary Sponsor:

     &= nbsp;      Huawei Technologies

 

Co-sponsors (in alphabetical order)= :

        = ;    ANSYS

    = ;        Intel Corporation

           &= nbsp;IO Methodology

    &nb= sp;       Synopsys

=             Teledyne= LeCroy

       = ;     ZTE Corporation

&n= bsp;

Cost:       FREE, i= ncluding refreshments and buffet lunch

 = ;

Vendors:    Some vendors will have in= formation tables

 

            Contact= us for details regarding sponsorship.

 = ;

BACKGROUND

 

   We have held nine successful meetings in She= nzhen, Shanghai and Beijing.

   This ye= ar we are meeting again in Shanghai where many Chinese and

   foreign high technology companies operate.  The= se events are archived

   along with al= l our other Summits:

 

     http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/summits/

 

   Our object= ive is to reach out internationally to communicate with

   the local experts and to learn of regional concerns.

 

CONFERENCE LANGUAG= E

 

   T= he conference language is English, but we will plan for technical

   translations in English and Mandarin.  S= o presenters can optionally

   deliver = in Mandarin as long as an English version of the material is

   available.

 

IBIS SUMMIT

<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> =

   This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBI= S Summit Meeting.

   Presentations will= be archived in an electronic format on our

&nb= sp;  Summits site, and minutes of the meeting will be issued.  Ho= wever,

   no formal decisions requiring= votes will be planned.

 <= /p>

CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS

 

   People involved in IBIS and interconnect model d= evelopment, EDA

   tool development, an= d digital circuit design are invited to

 &nb= sp; participate in the Summit meeting.  If you plan to participate,

   please register using the information = below (in English):

 

     Name:

  =    E-mail address:

 

     Company:

&n= bsp;    Top-level Web Link:

&= nbsp;

     Country:

 

   Send to BOTH:

 

   &= nbsp; Lance Wang, IO Methodology Inc.      &n= bsp;  lwang@iometh.com

   &nb= sp; Bob Ross, Teraspeed Labs        = ;        bob@teraspeedlabs.com

 

 <= /p>

   SIGNUP DEADLINE: November 10, 2014

 

CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS

 

   We are seeking= presentations from individuals who have IBIS and

   interconnect modeling experiences or issues.  If we have= to

   select presentations for the num= ber of time slots available, we

<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>   will= give preferential consideration to presentations from Asia.

 

   Presentation Form= at:   LCD Projection from meeting laptop computer

 

   Time:  &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   15-30 Minutes including questions

=  

   Electronic Archival: &nb= sp; All presentations will uploaded to our public

            &n= bsp;            = ; IBIS Summit archives

 

   Electronic Format:     Power Point = or Acrobat

 

&nb= sp;  Presentation Booklet:  Available at the meeting for all atte= ndees

 

 &nbs= p; Presentation Deadline: October 17, 2014 to produce the presentation=

         = ;            &n= bsp;    booklet for the meeting

 

   If you plan a presentation, ple= ase ADD to the above registration

   in= formation:

 

&nb= sp;    Title of Presentation:

 

     Estimated Time:=

       (30 minutes or l= ess)

 

  = ; We will notify you of acceptance and may follow up with questions

   when we form the program agenda.=

 

   Note: Vendor = promotional or business information is prohibited.

   can be in Mandarin.=

 

   Submissions f= rom Asia are encouraged along with other submissions

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>   world-wide.  Topics may include behavioral modeling o= f buffers,

   interconnects or other sy= stem components.

 

AGENDA

 

 &n= bsp; 8:15 -   9:00  Vendor table setup and tables=

   8:30 -   9:00  Sign in

   9:00 -  12:00  Presentations<= /o:p>

   12:00 - 13:30  Free buffet lunch, ve= ndor tables

   13:30 - 17:00  Pres= entations

 

 =   The specific agenda is being developed.  We expect nine or ten<= o:p>

   presentations covering a range of is= sues from existing customer

   experien= ces, existing clarifications and some future technical

   directions in IBIS.

 = ;

   Several major IBIS Committee presentati= ons from IBIS officers or

   active mem= bers are planned.

 

   issues, including interconnec= ts and system components, are expected

 &nbs= p; from co-sponsor companies and/or their customers.

<= p class=3DMsoNormal> 

LIST OF NEARBY HOTELS AND TRAVEL RULES=

 

   Ho= tels in all price ranges can be found through internet searches.=

 

   Comply with y= our travel rules, such as indicated in the link

&= nbsp;  below to China and Shanghai.  Work with your travel agent.=   Notify

   us as a sign-up commen= t if you need assistance.  Visas, if needed,

   should fall in the visit/business category:=

 

     http://t= ravel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1089.html

 

 

--

 

Bob Ross

Teraspeed Labs

http://www.= teraspeedlabs.com

bob@teraspeedlabs.com

Direct: 503-246-8048

Office: 971= - -279-5325


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Several companies listed below are co-sponsoring this major event to be held at the Sherwood Hotel in Taipei. Like in previous years, We are planning for many attendees. We encourage technical contributions from Asia. Other Asian IBIS Summit meetings are scheduled for: Shanghai, P.R. China, Friday November 14, Parkyard Hotel Yokohama, Japan, Thursday, November 20, Pacifico Yokohama Lance Wang IO Methodology Bob Ross Teraspeed Labs - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ASIAN IBIS SUMMIT (TAIPEI) SECOND CALL FOR PARTICIPATION AND PRESENTATIONS - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- A S I A N I B I S S U M M I T ( T A I P E I ) Time/Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2014, 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM Meeting starts at 8:30 AM Location: Sherwood Hotel 11 Min Sheng E Road, Sec. 3 Taipei, Taiwan http://www.sherwood.com.tw/ Room: Tentatively Ballroom D Content: Presentations and Discussions Purpose: Solicit and exchange IBIS and interconnect model related information and ideas. Co-sponsors (in alphabetical order): ANSYS Cadence Design Systems IO Methodology Synopsys Others to be determined. Cost: FREE, including refreshments and buffet lunch Vendors: Some vendors will have information tables outside the meeting room Contact us for details regarding sponsorship. BACKGROUND We have held many successful Summit meetings across Asia in previous years. This will be our fifth meeting in Taiwan where many national and international high technology companies have operations. Our objective is to reach out internationally to communicate with the local experts and to learn of regional concerns. CONFERENCE LANGUAGE The conference language is English, but we will plan for technical translations in English and Chinese. So presenters can optionally deliver in Chinese as long as an English version of the material is available. IBIS SUMMIT This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBIS Summit Meeting. Presentations will be archived in an electronic format on our Summits site, and minutes of the meeting will be issued. However, no formal decisions requiring votes will be planned. CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS People involved in IBIS and interconnect model development, EDA tool development, and digital circuit design are invited to participate in the Summit meeting. If you plan to participate, please register using the information below (in English): Name: E-mail address: Company: Top-level Web Link: Country: Send to BOTH: Lance Wang, IO Methodology lwang@iometh.com Bob Ross, Teraspeed Labs bob@teraspeedlabs.com SIGNUP DEADLINE: November 12, 2014 CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS We are seeking presentations from individuals who have IBIS and interconnect modeling experiences or issues. If we have to select presentations for the number of time slots available, we will give preferential consideration to presentations from Asia. Presentation Format: LCD Projection from meeting laptop computer Time: 15-30 Minutes including questions Electronic Archival: All presentations will uploaded to our public IBIS Summit archives Electronic Format: Power Point or Acrobat Presentation Booklet: Available at the meeting for all attendees Presentation Deadline: October 20, 2014 to produce the presentation copies for the meeting If you plan a presentation, please ADD to the above registration information: Title of Presentation: Estimated Time: (30 minutes or less) We will notify you of acceptance and may follow up with questions when we form the program agenda. Note: Vendor promotional or business information is prohibited. Presentations must be in English, although the delivery can be in Chinese. Submissions from Taiwan and across Asia are strongly encouraged, though submissions from other regions are very welcome. Topics may include behavioral modeling of buffers, interconnects or other system components. AGENDA 8:00 - 8:30 Vendor table setup and tables 8:00 - 8:30 Sign in 8:30 - 12:00 Presentations 12:00 - 13:30 Free buffet lunch, vendor tables 13:30 - 16:30 Presentations The specific agenda is being developed. We expect nine or ten presentations covering a range of issues from existing customer experiences, existing clarifications and some of the future directions in IBIS to deal with technical advances. Several presentations on IBIS applications and behavioral modeling issues, including interconnects and system components, are expected from co-sponsor companies and/or their customers. LIST OF NEARBY HOTELS AND TRAVEL Hotels in all price ranges can be found through internet searches. The conference hotel link is http://www.sherwood.com.tw/ - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Bob Ross Teraspeed Labs http://www.teraspeedlabs.com bob@teraspeedlabs.com Direct: 503-246-8048 Office: 971-279-5325 - -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CFDF3B.BE147530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To All:

 

The IBIS Open Forum is hold= ing its fifth Asian IBIS Summit Meeting in

Tai= wan. We are meeting again in Taipei on Monday, November 17, 2014.

 

Several companies l= isted below are co-sponsoring this major event

to be held at the Sherwood Hotel in Taipei. Like in previous

years, We are planning for many attendees.

 

We encourage technical con= tributions from Asia.

 =

Other Asian IBIS Summit meetings are scheduled for:<= /span>

 

  Shanghai, P.R.= China, Friday November 14, Parkyard Hotel

&nb= sp; Yokohama, Japan, Thursday, November 20, Pacifico Yokohama

 

Lance Wang

IO Methodology

 

Bob Ross

Teraspeed Labs<= o:p>

 

----------= - -------------------------------------------------------------

          = ;            &n= bsp;  ASIAN IBIS SUMMIT (TAIPEI)

 &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;   SECOND CALL FOR

  &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;       PARTICIPATION AND PRESENTATIONS=

--------------------------------------------------= - ---------------------

 =

          &nb= sp; A S I A N   I B I S   S U M M I T   ( T A= I P E I )

 

Time/Date:  Tuesday, November 17, 2014, 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM=

         &n= bsp;  Meeting starts at 8:30 AM

&nbs= p;

Location:   Sherwood Hotel<= /span>

          &n= bsp; 11 Min Sheng E Road, Sec. 3

 &n= bsp;          Taipei, Taiwan

 

  = ;          http://www.sherwood= .com.tw/

 

= Room:       Tentatively Ballroom D=

 

Content:  =   Presentations and Discussions

&nbs= p;

Purpose:    Solicit and exchange = IBIS and interconnect model related

 &nbs= p;          information and id= eas.

 

=  

Co-sponsors (in alphabetical order):

         = ;   ANSYS

    &n= bsp;       Cadence Design Systems<= /span>

         &nb= sp;  IO Methodology

   &nb= sp;        Synopsys

           = Others to be determined.

 

Cost:       FREE, including r= efreshments and buffet lunch

<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> =

Vendors:    Some vendors will have inform= ation tables outside the

   &nb= sp;        meeting room

 

    &n= bsp;       Contact us for details regarding s= ponsorship.

 

 

   years.  This= will be our fifth meeting in Taiwan where many national<= /p>

   and international high technology companies have op= erations.

 

=    Our objective is to reach out internationally to communicate w= ith

   the local experts and to lear= n of regional concerns.

 

CONFERENCE LANGUAGE

 <= /o:p>

   The conference language is English, bu= t we will plan for technical

<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>   tran= slations in English and Chinese.  So presenters can optionally

   deliver in Chinese as long as an English= version of the material is

   avail= able.

 

IBIS= SUMMIT

 

=    This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBIS Summit Meeting= .

   Presentations will be archived = in an electronic format on our

   Su= mmits site, and minutes of the meeting will be issued.  However,<= /o:p>

   no formal decisions requiring votes wi= ll be planned.

 

CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS

 

   People involved in IBIS and interconnect mode= l development, EDA

   tool developme= nt, and digital circuit design are invited to

=    participate in the Summit meeting.  If you plan to partic= ipate,

   please register using the = information below (in English):

 

     Name:

<= p class=3DMsoPlainText>     E-mail address:

     Company:

     Top-level Web Link:=

 

  &n= bsp;  Country:

 

   Send to BOTH:

&nbs= p;

     Lance Wang, IO Methodol= ogy      lwang@iometh.com

     Bob Ross, Teraspeed Labs   &nb= sp;    bob@teraspeedlabs.com

=  

   SIGNUP DEADLINE: November = 12, 2014

 

= CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS

 

   We are seeking presentations from individuals who= have IBIS and

   interconnect model= ing experiences or issues.  If we have to

   select presentations for the number of time slots available, = we

   will give preferential conside= ration to presentations from Asia.

 =

   Presentation Format:   LCD = Projection from meeting laptop computer

&= nbsp;

   Time:    &nb= sp;            = 15-30 Minutes including questions

 =

   Electronic Archival:   All = presentations will uploaded to our public

&nbs= p;            &= nbsp;            IBI= S Summit archives

 

   Electronic Format:     Power Poin= t or Acrobat

 

 

      &n= bsp;            = ;       copies for the meeting

 

   If you plan= a presentation, please ADD to the above registration

=

   information:

 <= /o:p>

     Title of Presentation:

 

  &= nbsp;  Estimated Time:

   =     (30 minutes or less)

&= nbsp;

   We will notify you of acceptance= and may follow up with questions

  = when we form the program agenda.

 <= /o:p>

   Note: Vendor promotional or business i= nformation is prohibited.

   Present= ations must be in English, although the delivery can be in

   Chinese.

 =

   Submissions from Taiwan and across As= ia are strongly encouraged,

   thoug= h submissions from other regions are very welcome.  Topics may

   include behavioral modeling of buffers, = interconnects or other system

=    com= ponents.

 

= AGENDA

 

&nb= sp;  8:00 -   8:30  Vendor table setup and tables<= /o:p>

   8:00 -   8:30  Sign in<= o:p>

   8:30 -  12:00  Presenta= tions

   12:00 - 13:30  Free bu= ffet lunch, vendor tables

   13:30 -= 16:30  Presentations

 

   The specific agenda is being developed. = We expect nine or ten

   presentati= ons covering a range of issues from existing customer

=

   experiences, existing clarifications and some of the f= uture

   directions in IBIS to deal = with technical advances.

 

   Several presentations on IBIS applications and = behavioral modeling

   issues, inclu= ding interconnects and system components, are expected

   from co-sponsor companies and/or their customers.

 

LIST OF NEARB= Y HOTELS AND TRAVEL

 

   Hotels in all price ranges can be found through inte= rnet searches.

   The conference hot= el link is

 

   http://www.sherwood.com.tw/

 

 

-------= - ----------------------------------------------------------

 

 = ;

--

 

Bob Ross

Teraspeed Labs

http= ://www.teraspeedlabs.com

bob@teraspee= dlabs.com

Direct: 503-246-8048

Office: 971-279-5325

 


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Hi All,
I am= not very expert in IBIS modelling and have very small query. In our system= , we have tool which generate IBIS file and contain information about rise = and fall waveform. In current scenario, I have to change r_fixture value an= d need to generate IBIS file. I am able to generate IBIS file and contain a= ll data points. I want to very all data points which is present in IBIS file. Is t= here any tool/mythology available to  verify IBIS data points. I have = run ibischk5 and did not get any error. In brief, I want to verify all poin= ts
in IBIS.
 
=
Thanks
Abhishek Goswami
Phone No -= 07829580867/9962270999
Skype : abhishekgoswami1


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