From: owner-ibis-users@eda.org (ibis-users) To: ibis-users-digest@eda.org Subject: ibis-users V1 #256 Reply-To: Sender: owner-ibis-users@eda.org Errors-To: owner-ibis-users@eda.org Precedence: bulk ibis-users Monday, March 16 2015 Volume 01 : Number 256 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 21:31:39 +0000 From: "Mirmak, Michael" Subject: [IBIS-Users] IBIS Summit at DesignCon 2015 - Second Call for Participation and Presentations - --_000_942B8AE05D9831409A64517FFA4C46015E5E9F7Afmsmsx120amrcor_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The IBIS Open Forum is pleased to announce our IBIS Summit meeting at Desig= nCon 2015. The Summit will be held in at the Santa Clara Convention Center = in Santa Clara, California, on January 30, 2015. IBIS Summits are designed to enable face-to-face interactions between model= users, model makers and tool developers in the IBIS community. Those inte= rested in presenting at or in attending the event may register using the in= formation below. The IBIS Open Forum is sponsoring the event, but we welcome additional spon= sors to cover some of the meeting expenses, including the FREE lunch and re= freshments. We look forward to seeing you in Santa Clara! Best Regards, Michael Mirmak Intel Corp. Chair, IBIS Open Forum - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I B I S S U M M I T M E E T I N G SECOND CALL FOR PARTICIPATION & PRESENTATIONS - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Time/Date: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Location: Santa Clara Convention Center 5101 Great America Parkway Santa Clara, California, USA Room: Great America Meeting Room 2 Content: Presentations and Discussions Cost: FREE Sponsors: IBIS Open Forum, DesignCon We are seeking more co-sponsors. The benefits to sponsors include recogniti= on at the meeting and acknowledgement in the Calls for Papers and meeting m= inutes. Your financial support strengthens the organization by allowing IBIS to foc= us resources on industry activities rather than raising money. You will rec= eive generous thanks and public acknowledgement for your support. Please contact Michael Mirmak > for co-sponsorship information. BACKGROUND DesignCon 2015 Conference: January 27 - 30, 2015 Santa Clara Convention Center Santa Clara, CA http://www.designcon.com/ Conference Schedule: http://www.designcon.com/santaclara/conference DesignCon is the premier annual Silicon Valley event for the electronic design automation (EDA) and semiconductor industry. Topics of current interest to the IBIS Open Forum are addressed at DesignCon. This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBIS meeting. Presentations are expected to be available in an electronic format, and minutes of the meeting will be issued. Any pending formal decisions (votes) will be announced at least two weeks prior to the meeting. CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS People involved in IBIS or related model development, EDA tool development, and digital circuit design are invited to participate in the Summit meeting. If you plan to participate, please register with the information below: Name: E-mail address: Company: Telephone: Send your registration information to Michael Mirmak > Registration deadline is Friday, January 24, 2015 to receive the free lunch. IBIS participants receive a 15% discount on all-access DesignCon registrati= on, but only through January 10th! Please contact Michael Mirmak > to obtain discounted reg= istration information. CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS We are seeking presentations from individuals who have experiences of interest to the IBIS modeling community. These can include, but are not limited to: Demonstrations of modeling techniques Explanations of behavioral algorithms Descriptions of difficulties encountered Model correlation Modeling building experiences Comparisons to other modeling methods New technologies for modeling buffers and components New technologies for modeling packaging and interconnects Algorithmic modeling topics Presentations may be addressed to any and all levels of IBIS experience, from beginner to expert. Presentation Format: Microsoft PowerPoint* or Adobe Acrobat* electronic formats are favored and will be pre-loaded on a Microsoft Windows*-based meeting laptop prior to the meeting. Materials will be projected but handouts or other physical media are welcome. Time: Usually 15-45 minutes (allow time for questions) Electronic Archival: Presentations will be archived under the IBIS Summit website. Final submission deadline is Tuesday, January 20, 2015 If you plan a presentation, please supply the following information as soon as possible: Presentation Title: Presenter Name: E-mail address: Company: Telephone: Estimated Time: Send to Michael Mirmak > All submissions will be reviewed by the IBIS Board and are subject to appro= val before Presentation at the Summit. Note, vendor-specific, confidential or product promotion material is forbid= den at IBIS summits. Presentations MUST be submitted by the deadline for review. The IBIS Open Forum reserves the right to reject submitted presentations or stop a scheduled presentation containing content that has not been reviewed. AGENDA The agenda includes presentations, discussions, breaks, and a FREE lunch. A formal list of speakers and topics will be released one week prior to the event. 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The IBIS Open Forum is pleased to announce our IBIS = Summit meeting at DesignCon 2015. The Summit will be held in at the Santa C= lara Convention Center in Santa Clara, California, on January 30, 2015.

 

IBIS Summits are designed to enable face-to-face int= eractions between model users, model makers and tool developers in the IBIS= community.  Those interested in presenting at or in attending the eve= nt may register using the information below.

 

The IBIS Open Forum is sponsoring the event, but we = welcome additional sponsors to cover some of the meeting expenses, includin= g the FREE lunch and refreshments.

 

We look forward to seeing you in Santa Clara!

 

Best Regards,

 

   Michael Mirmak

   Intel Corp.

   Chair, IBIS Open Forum

 

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         &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;SECOND CALL FOR

 

         &nb= sp;            = PARTICIPATION & PRESENTATIONS

 

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Time/Date:       =   Friday, January 30, 2015 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM

 

Location:       &= nbsp;      Santa Clara Convention Center

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;          5101 Great Amer= ica Parkway

Santa Cl= ara, California, USA

 

Room:        &nbs= p;          Great America Meet= ing Room 2

 

Content:       &n= bsp;      Presentations and Discussions=

 

Cost:        = ;            &n= bsp; FREE

 

Sponsors:       &= nbsp;    IBIS Open Forum, DesignCon

 

We are seeking more co-sp= onsors. The benefits to sponsors include recognition at the meeting and ack= nowledgement in the Calls for Papers and meeting minutes.

 

Your financial support st= rengthens the organization by allowing IBIS to focus resources on industry = activities rather than raising money. You will receive generous thanks and = public acknowledgement for your support.

 

Please contact Michael Mi= rmak <michael.mirmak@intel.c= om>  for co-sponsorship= information.

 

BACKGROUND

 

         &nb= sp;       DesignCon 2015 Co= nference:

     &nbs= p;          January 27 - 30, 2015

 

     &nbs= p;          Santa Clara Convention = Center

     &nbs= p;          Santa Clara, CA

     &nbs= p;          http://www.designcon.com/

 

        &nbs= p;       Conference Schedule:

        &nbs= p;       http://www.designcon.com/santaclara/conference

 

DesignCon is the premier annual Silicon Valley event= for the electronic

design automation (EDA) and semiconductor industry. = Topics of current

interest to the IBIS Open Forum are addressed at Des= ignCon.

 

This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBIS meet= ing.

 

Presentations are expected to be available in an ele= ctronic

format, and minutes of the meeting will be issued. A= ny pending formal

decisions (votes) will be announced at least two wee= ks prior to the

meeting.

 

 

CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS

 

People involved in IBIS or related model development= , EDA tool development,

and digital circuit design are invited to participat= e in the Summit meeting.

If you plan to participate, please register with the= information below:

 

   Name:

 

   E-mail address:

 

   Company:

 

   Telephone:

 

Send your registration information to Michael Mirmak= <michael.mirmak@intel.com>   

 

Registration deadline is Friday, January 24, 2015 to= receive the free lunch.

 

IBIS participants receive a 15% discount on all-a= ccess DesignCon registration, but only through January 10th!&nbs= p; Please contact Michael Mirmak <michael.mirmak@intel.com> to obtain discounted registration information.

 

 

CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS

 

We are seeking presentations from individuals who ha= ve experiences of

interest to the IBIS modeling community. These can i= nclude, but are not

limited to:

 

   Demonstrations of modeling techniques

 

   Explanations of behavioral algorithms

 

   Descriptions of difficulties encountere= d

 

   Model correlation

 

   Modeling building experiences

 

   Comparisons to other modeling methods

 

   New technologies for modeling buffers a= nd components

 

   New technologies for modeling packaging= and interconnects

 

   Algorithmic modeling topics<= /p>

 

Presentations may be addressed to any and all levels= of IBIS experience,

from beginner to expert.

 

Presentation Format:

 

   Microsoft PowerPoint* or Adobe Acrobat*= electronic formats are favored

   and will be pre-loaded on a Microsoft W= indows*-based meeting laptop

   prior to the meeting. Materials will be= projected but handouts or

   other physical media are welcome.<= /o:p>

 

Time: Usually 15-45 minutes (allow time for question= s)

 

Electronic Archival:

 

   Presentations will be archived under th= e IBIS Summit website.

   Final submission deadline is Tuesday, J= anuary 20, 2015

 

If you plan a presentation, please supply the follow= ing information as

soon as possible:

 

   Presentation Title:

 

   Presenter Name:

 

   E-mail address:

 

   Company:

 

   Telephone:

 

   Estimated Time:

 

Send to Michael Mirmak <michael.mirmak@intel.com>

 

All submissions will be reviewed by the IBIS Board a= nd are subject to approval before

Presentation at the Summit.

 

Note, vendor-specific, confidential or product promo= tion material is forbidden at

IBIS summits. Presentations MUST be submitted by the= deadline for review.

The IBIS Open Forum reserves the right to reject sub= mitted presentations or

stop a scheduled presentation containing content tha= t has not been reviewed.

 

 

AGENDA

 

The agenda includes presentations, discussions, brea= ks, and a FREE

lunch. A formal list of speakers and topics will be = released one

week prior to the event.

 

 

HOTEL AND TRAVEL INFORMATION

 

The Hotel and Travel Link below provides a conferenc= e hotel discount, as

well as transportation suggestions:

 

    http://www.designcon.com/santaclara/registration/travel-and-venue.php <= o:p>

 


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= Please join us for the free IBIS Summit at DesignCon in Santa Clara next we= ek!

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= Presentation materials will be available on-line after the event.

=  

= Many thanks to our co-sponsors, Keysight Technologies and UBM!

=  

= - -----------------------------------------------------------------------

=  

=             &nb= sp;        AGENDA - IBIS SUMMIT MEETING<= o:p>

=  

=             &nb= sp;          Friday, January 3= 0, 2015

=  

=  

=  

=             &nb= sp;        Sant= a Clara Convention Center

 

          &nb= sp;            = Santa Clara, California

 

 

 

          &nb= sp;        Room: Great Amer= ica Meeting Room 2

=

=             &nb= sp;         Second Floor (look= for signs)

=  

=  

=            Sponsored by K= eysight Technologies, UBM (DesignCon)

=  

= - -----------------------------------------------------------------------

=  

=             &nb= sp;     (order and times subject to change)<= /span>

=  

= 8:00 AM     Refreshments & Sign In

=  

= 8:30 AM     Official Opening

=             - Welcom= e to Summit

=             - Introd= uctions

=  

= 8:35 AM     Chair's Status Report

=             Michael = Mirmak, Intel Corp.

=  

= 9:15 AM     SAE Industry Technologies Consortia: A Brie= fing

=             Chris De= nham, SAE International

=  

= 9:35 AM     Sink or Swim at 28 Gbps: How to Validate In= terconnect

=             &nb= sp; Analysis Software for 28 Gpbs Data Links

=             Yuriy Sh= lepnev, Simberian

=  

= 10:20 AM    IBIS-ATM Task Group Report

=             Arpad Mu= ranyi, Mentor Graphics

=             (present= ed by Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp.)

=  

= 10:40 AM    BREAK

=  

= 10:55 AM    IBIS Quality Task Group Report=

=             Mike LaB= onte, Signal Integrity Software (SiSoft)

=             Bob Ross= , Teraspeed Consulting Group

=  

= 11:25 AM    IBIS Interconnect BIRD

=             Walter K= atz, Signal Integrity Software (SiSoft)

=  

= 12:10 PM    LUNCH

=             Pre-regi= stration required

=  

= 1:10 PM     Corner Considerations

=             Bob Ross= , Teraspeed Consulting Group

=  

= 1:55 PM     Improved C_comp Model Case Study=

=             Randy Wo= lff, Micron Technology

=  

= 2:25 PM     General K-table Extraction Proposal Using S= PICE

=             Bob Ross= , Teraspeed Consulting Group

=  

= 3:10 PM     BREAK

=  

= 3:25 PM     IBIS-AMI and Co-optimization

=             Todd Wes= terhoff, Walter Katz and Mike LaBonte, Signal Integrity Software (SiSoft)

=  

= 4:10 AM     Backchannel Revisited

=             Ken Will= is and Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems

=  

= 4:30 PM     Open Discussion and Concluding Items

=             - Next O= pen Forum Meeting: February 6, 2015

=  

= 5:00 PM     End of Meeting Room Availability=

=  

= - ------------------------------------------------------------------

=  

= If you plan to participate, please register with the information below:

=  

=    Name:

=  

=    E-mail address:

=  

=    Company:

=  

=    Telephone:

=  

= Send to:    Michael Mirmak (michael.mirmak@intel.com)

=  

=  

= Sponsors:   Keysight Technologies, UBM (DesignCon)

=  

=  

DesignCon:  January 27 - 30, 2015

 

          &nb= sp; Santa Clara Convention Center

 

          &nb= sp; Santa Clara, California

 

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| |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 23:58:00 +0000 From: KAZUNORI YAMADA Subject: RE: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner] - --_000_HKXPR06MB0551BAB119572E28F53A2686CB1F0HKXPR06MB0551apcp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob-san, Thank you very much! I can understand. The information under [C Comp Corner] are completely associated with proces= s/voltage/temperature conditions. The original C_comp information positioned under the [Model] keyword are so= rted by magnitude. best regaeds. Kazunori Yamada. From: Bob Ross [mailto:bob@teraspeedlabs.com] Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:58 AM To: KAZUNORI YAMADA; ibis-users@eda.org Subject: RE: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner] Hello Kazunori Yamada, [C Comp Corner] is a newer keyword in IBIS to provide C_comp information that overrides any existing C_comp information directly positioned under the [Model] keyword. The information under [C Comp Corner] is intended to be directly correlated with the other [Model] typ/min/max column information, as would be extracted under the same process/voltage/temperature conditions. Because of this, the EDA tool is expected to use the same C_comp column information with the [Model] corner information. For example, the C_comp min column information would be used only with the [Model] min column information. Also, [C Comp Corner] example shows that the entries are not necessarily positioned by magnitude. For example, the min column entries are larger than the max column entries. With the original C_comp information positioned under the [Model] keyword, the column entries are positioned by magnitude (smallest value under the min column, etc.) to provide the typ and max and min values to be used. The EDA tool is expected to allow the user to select any or all of the C_comp corner values to test a range of solutions that may exist for different pins. (Also the original reason for this approach was that the on-die interconnect portion extracted as part of C_comp might be different for each pin.) Best Regards, Bob From: owner-ibis-users@eda.org [mailto:own= er-ibis-users@eda.org] On Behalf Of KAZUNORI YAMADA Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 6:18 PM To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner] Hi experts. I have a question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner]. In the version 5.1 and later, I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [Model]. [Model] C_comp 7.0pF 5.0pF 9.0pF C_comp_pullup 3.0pF 2.5pF 3.5pF | These four can be C_comp_pulldown 2.0pF 1.5pF 2.5pF | used instead of C_comp_power_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF | C_comp C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF Moreover I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [C Comp Corner]. [C Comp Corner] | variable typ min max C_comp 7.0pF 9.0pF 5.0pF | C_comp_pullup 3.0pF 3.5pF 2.5pF | These four can be C_comp_pulldown 2.0pF 2.5pF 1.5pF | used instead of C_comp_power_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | C_comp C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | What is different by both of them? Is the [C Comp Corner] insignificant already? best regaeds. Kazunori Yamada. Renesas System Design Corp. - -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - --_000_HKXPR06MB0551BAB119572E28F53A2686CB1F0HKXPR06MB0551apcp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bob-san,

 

Thank you very much!

I can understand.<= /p>

 

The information under [C Comp Corner= ] are completely associated with process/voltage/temperature conditions.

The original C_comp information posi= tioned under the [Model] keyword are sorted by magnitude.=

 

best= regaeds.

Kazu= nori Yamada.

 

From: Bob Ross [mailto:bob@teraspeedlabs= .com]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:58 AM
To: KAZUNORI YAMADA; ibis-users@eda.org
Subject: RE: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner]<= o:p>

 

Hello Kazunori Yamada,=

 

[C Comp Corner] is a n= ewer keyword in IBIS to provide

C_comp information tha= t overrides any existing C_comp

information directly p= ositioned under the [Model] keyword.

 

The information under = [C Comp Corner] is intended to be

directly correlated wi= th the other [Model] typ/min/max

column information, as= would be extracted under the

same process/voltage/t= emperature conditions.  Because

of this, the EDA tool = is expected to use the same C_comp

column information wit= h the [Model] corner information.

For example, the C_com= p min column information would be

used only with the [Mo= del] min column information.

 

Also, [C Comp Corner] = example shows that the entries are

not necessarily positi= oned by magnitude.  For example,

the min column entries= are larger than the max column

entries.

 

With the original C_co= mp information positioned under the

[Model] keyword, the c= olumn entries are positioned by

magnitude (smallest va= lue under the min column, etc.) to

provide the typ and ma= x and min values to be used.

The EDA tool is expect= ed to allow the user to select any or

all of the C_comp corn= er values to test a range of solutions

that may exist for dif= ferent pins.  (Also the original reason

for this approach was = that the on-die interconnect portion

extracted as part of C= _comp might be different for each pin.)

 

Best Regards,

Bob<= /p>

 

 

 

From: owner-ibis-users@eda.org [<= a href=3D"mailto:owner-ibis-users@eda.org">mailto:owner-ibis-users@eda.org<= /a>] On Behalf Of KAZUNORI YAMADA
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 6:18 PM
To: ibis-users@eda.org
Subject: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner]=

 

Hi e= xperts.

 

I ha= ve a question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner].

 

In t= he version 5.1 and later,

I ca= n describe the C_comp* by corners under [Model].

[Model]

C_comp 7.0p= F 5.0pF 9.0pF

C_comp_pull= up 3.0pF 2.5pF 3.5pF | These four can be

C_comp_pull= down 2.0pF 1.5pF 2.5pF | used instead of

C_comp_powe= r_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF | C_comp

C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF

 

More= over I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [C Comp Corner].

[C Comp Cor= ner]

| variable = typ min max

C_comp 7.0p= F 9.0pF 5.0pF

|

C_comp_pull= up 3.0pF 3.5pF 2.5pF | These four can be

C_comp_pull= down 2.0pF 2.5pF 1.5pF | used instead of

C_comp_powe= r_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | C_comp

C_comp_gnd_= clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF

|

 

What= is different by both of them?

Is t= he [C Comp Corner] insignificant already?

 

 

best= regaeds.

 

Kazu= nori Yamada.

Rene= sas System Design Corp.


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This message has been scanned for viruses and
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believed to be clean. - --_000_HKXPR06MB0551BAB119572E28F53A2686CB1F0HKXPR06MB0551apcp_-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, e-mail mikelabonte@eda-stds.org |or ibis-request@eda-stds.org | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 08:57:58 -0800 From: "Bob Ross" Subject: RE: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner] This is a multipart message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D05722.7DB51B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Kazunori Yamada, [C Comp Corner] is a newer keyword in IBIS to provide C_comp information that overrides any existing C_comp information directly positioned under the [Model] keyword. The information under [C Comp Corner] is intended to be directly correlated with the other [Model] typ/min/max column information, as would be extracted under the same process/voltage/temperature conditions. Because of this, the EDA tool is expected to use the same C_comp column information with the [Model] corner information. For example, the C_comp min column information would be used only with the [Model] min column information. Also, [C Comp Corner] example shows that the entries are not necessarily positioned by magnitude. For example, the min column entries are larger than the max column entries. With the original C_comp information positioned under the [Model] keyword, the column entries are positioned by magnitude (smallest value under the min column, etc.) to provide the typ and max and min values to be used. The EDA tool is expected to allow the user to select any or all of the C_comp corner values to test a range of solutions that may exist for different pins. (Also the original reason for this approach was that the on-die interconnect portion extracted as part of C_comp might be different for each pin.) Best Regards, Bob From: owner-ibis-users@eda.org [mailto:owner-ibis-users@eda.org] On Behalf Of KAZUNORI YAMADA Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 6:18 PM To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner] Hi experts. I have a question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner]. In the version 5.1 and later, I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [Model]. [Model] C_comp 7.0pF 5.0pF 9.0pF C_comp_pullup 3.0pF 2.5pF 3.5pF | These four can be C_comp_pulldown 2.0pF 1.5pF 2.5pF | used instead of C_comp_power_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF | C_comp C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF Moreover I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [C Comp Corner]. [C Comp Corner] | variable typ min max C_comp 7.0pF 9.0pF 5.0pF | C_comp_pullup 3.0pF 3.5pF 2.5pF | These four can be C_comp_pulldown 2.0pF 2.5pF 1.5pF | used instead of C_comp_power_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | C_comp C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | What is different by both of them? Is the [C Comp Corner] insignificant already? best regaeds. Kazunori Yamada. Renesas System Design Corp. - -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D05722.7DB51B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Kazunori Yamada,

 

[C Comp Corner] is a newer keyword in IBIS to provide=

C_comp information that overri= des any existing C_comp

in= formation directly positioned under the [Model] keyword.<= /p>

 

The information under [C Comp Corner] is intended to be

directly correlated with the othe= r [Model] typ/min/max

colu= mn information, as would be extracted under the

same process/voltage/temperature conditions.  Be= cause

of this, the EDA too= l is expected to use the same C_comp

column information with the [Model] corner information.

For example, the C_comp min column= information would be

used= only with the [Model] min column information.

 

Also, [C Comp Corner] example shows that the entries are

not necessarily positioned by magnitude.&n= bsp; For example,

the min = column entries are larger than the max column

entries.

 

With the origina= l C_comp information positioned under the

[Model] keyword, the column entries are positioned by<= /o:p>

magnitude (smallest value under= the min column, etc.) to

= provide the typ and max and min values to be used.

The EDA tool is expected to allow the user to sele= ct any or

all of the C_com= p corner values to test a range of solutions

that may exist for different pins.  (Also the orig= inal reason

for this appro= ach was that the on-die interconnect portion

extracted as part of C_comp might be different for each= pin.)

 

Best Regards,

Bob

 

 

 

From:<= /b> owne= r-ibis-users@eda.org [mailto:owner-ibis-users@eda.org] On Behalf Of = KAZUNORI YAMADA
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 6:18 PM
To:= ibis-users@eda.org
Subject: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_co= mp and [C Comp Corner]

 

Hi experts= .

 

= I have a question = about C_comp and [C Comp Corner].

 =

In the version 5.1 and later,

I can= describe the C_comp* by corners under [Model].

[Model]

C_comp 7.0pF 5.0pF 9.0pF

C_comp_pullup 3.0pF 2.5pF 3.5pF | These four can be <= /p>

C_comp_pu= lldown 2.0pF 1.5pF 2.5pF | used instead of

C_comp_power_clamp 1= .0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF | C_comp

C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF

 = ;

Moreover I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [= C Comp Corner].

[C Comp Corner]

| variable typ min max <= o:p>

C_comp 7.0pF 9.0pF 5.0pF

|

C_comp_pullup 3.0pF= 3.5pF 2.5pF | These four can be

C_comp_pulldown 2.0pF 2.5pF 1.5p= F | used instead of

C_comp_power_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | C_comp=

C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF

|

 =

What is different by both of them?

Is the [C= Comp Corner] insignificant already?

 

 

best regaeds.

 

Kazunori Yamada.

Renesas System Design Corp.


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believed to be clean. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D05722.7DB51B70-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, e-mail mikelabonte@eda-stds.org |or ibis-request@eda-stds.org | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda-stds.org/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 02:18:26 +0000 From: KAZUNORI YAMADA Subject: [IBIS-Users] Question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner] - --_000_HKXPR06MB05513B35B193F7F67BF52463CB1F0HKXPR06MB0551apcp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi experts. I have a question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner]. In the version 5.1 and later, I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [Model]. [Model] C_comp 7.0pF 5.0pF 9.0pF C_comp_pullup 3.0pF 2.5pF 3.5pF | These four can be C_comp_pulldown 2.0pF 1.5pF 2.5pF | used instead of C_comp_power_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF | C_comp C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF Moreover I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [C Comp Corner]. [C Comp Corner] | variable typ min max C_comp 7.0pF 9.0pF 5.0pF | C_comp_pullup 3.0pF 3.5pF 2.5pF | These four can be C_comp_pulldown 2.0pF 2.5pF 1.5pF | used instead of C_comp_power_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | C_comp C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | What is different by both of them? Is the [C Comp Corner] insignificant already? best regaeds. Kazunori Yamada. Renesas System Design Corp. - --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - --_000_HKXPR06MB05513B35B193F7F67BF52463CB1F0HKXPR06MB0551apcp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi e= xperts.

 

I ha= ve a question about C_comp and [C Comp Corner].

 

In t= he version 5.1 and later,

I ca= n describe the C_comp* by corners under [Model].

[Model]

C_comp 7.0p= F 5.0pF 9.0pF

C_comp_pull= up 3.0pF 2.5pF 3.5pF | These four can be

C_comp_pull= down 2.0pF 1.5pF 2.5pF | used instead of

C_comp_powe= r_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF | C_comp

C_comp_gnd_clamp 1.0pF 0.5pF 1.5pF

 

More= over I can describe the C_comp* by corners under [C Comp Corner].

[C Comp Cor= ner]

| variable = typ min max

C_comp 7.0p= F 9.0pF 5.0pF

|

C_comp_pull= up 3.0pF 3.5pF 2.5pF | These four can be

C_comp_pull= down 2.0pF 2.5pF 1.5pF | used instead of

C_comp_powe= r_clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF | C_comp

C_comp_gnd_= clamp 1.0pF 1.5pF 0.5pF

|

 

What= is different by both of them?

Is t= he [C Comp Corner] insignificant already= ?

 

 

best= regaeds.

 

Kazu= nori Yamada.

Rene= sas System Design Corp.


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The presentations from Friday’s IBIS Summit at= DesignCon 2015 are now available for viewing and download, free of charge!=   Visit the page below for the slides for each linked talk:=

 

        &nbs= p;       http://www.eda.org/ibis/summits/jan15/

 

Our thanks again to our co-sponsors, Keysight Techno= logies and UBM, as well as the presenters and the attendees, for making thi= s event successful!

 

Michael Mirmak

Intel Corp

Chair, IBIS Open Forum

http://www.eda.org/ibis/


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IBIS Summits are designed to enable face-to-face interactions between model= users, model makers and tool developers in the IBIS community. Those inte= rested in presenting at or in attending the event may register using the in= formation below. The IBIS Open Forum is sponsoring the event, but we welcome additional spon= sors to cover some of the meeting expenses, including the FREE lunch and re= freshments. We look forward to seeing you in Santa Clara! Best Regards, Michael Mirmak Intel Corp. Chair, IBIS Open Forum - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I B I S S U M M I T M E E T I N G THIRD CALL FOR PARTICIPATION & PRESENTATIONS - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Time/Date: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Location: Santa Clara Convention Center 5101 Great America Parkway Santa Clara, California, USA Room: Great America Meeting Room 2 Content: Presentations and Discussions Cost: FREE Sponsors: IBIS Open Forum, DesignCon We are seeking more co-sponsors. The benefits to sponsors include recogniti= on at the meeting and acknowledgement in the Calls for Papers and meeting m= inutes. Your financial support strengthens the organization by allowing IBIS to foc= us resources on industry activities rather than raising money. You will rec= eive generous thanks and public acknowledgement for your support. Please contact Michael Mirmak > for co-sponsorship information. BACKGROUND DesignCon 2015 Conference: January 27 - 30, 2015 Santa Clara Convention Center Santa Clara, CA http://www.designcon.com/ Conference Schedule: http://www.designcon.com/santaclara/conference DesignCon is the premier annual Silicon Valley event for the electronic design automation (EDA) and semiconductor industry. Topics of current interest to the IBIS Open Forum are addressed at DesignCon. This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBIS meeting. Presentations are expected to be available in an electronic format, and minutes of the meeting will be issued. Any pending formal decisions (votes) will be announced at least two weeks prior to the meeting. CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS People involved in IBIS or related model development, EDA tool development, and digital circuit design are invited to participate in the Summit meeting. If you plan to participate, please register with the information below: Name: E-mail address: Company: Telephone: Send your registration information to Michael Mirmak > Registration deadline is Friday, January 24, 2015 to receive the free lunch. IBIS participants receive a 15% discount on all-access DesignCon registrati= on, but only through January 10th! Please contact Michael Mirmak > to obtain discounted reg= istration information. CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS We are seeking presentations from individuals who have experiences of interest to the IBIS modeling community. These can include, but are not limited to: Demonstrations of modeling techniques Explanations of behavioral algorithms Descriptions of difficulties encountered Model correlation Modeling building experiences Comparisons to other modeling methods New technologies for modeling buffers and components New technologies for modeling packaging and interconnects Algorithmic modeling topics Presentations may be addressed to any and all levels of IBIS experience, from beginner to expert. Presentation Format: Microsoft PowerPoint* or Adobe Acrobat* electronic formats are favored and will be pre-loaded on a Microsoft Windows*-based meeting laptop prior to the meeting. Materials will be projected but handouts or other physical media are welcome. Time: Usually 15-45 minutes (allow time for questions) Electronic Archival: Presentations will be archived under the IBIS Summit website. Final submission deadline is Tuesday, January 20, 2015 If you plan a presentation, please supply the following information as soon as possible: Presentation Title: Presenter Name: E-mail address: Company: Telephone: Estimated Time: Send to Michael Mirmak > All submissions will be reviewed by the IBIS Board and are subject to appro= val before Presentation at the Summit. Note, vendor-specific, confidential or product promotion material is forbid= den at IBIS summits. Presentations MUST be submitted by the deadline for review. The IBIS Open Forum reserves the right to reject submitted presentations or stop a scheduled presentation containing content that has not been reviewed. AGENDA The agenda includes presentations, discussions, breaks, and a FREE lunch. A formal list of speakers and topics will be released one week prior to the event. HOTEL AND TRAVEL INFORMATION The Hotel and Travel Link below provides a conference hotel discount, as well as transportation suggestions: http://www.designcon.com/santaclara/registration/travel-and-venue.php - --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - --_000_942B8AE05D9831409A64517FFA4C46015E5ED5CCfmsmsx120amrcor_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

The IBIS Open Forum will hold the 2015 IBIS Summit a= t DesignCon in at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, Califor= nia, on January 30, 2015.

 

IBIS Summits are designed to enable face-to-face int= eractions between model users, model makers and tool developers in the IBIS= community.  Those interested in presenting at or in attending the eve= nt may register using the information below.

 

The IBIS Open Forum is sponsoring the event, but we = welcome additional sponsors to cover some of the meeting expenses, includin= g the FREE lunch and refreshments.

 

We look forward to seeing you in Santa Clara!

 

Best Regards,

 

   Michael Mirmak

   Intel Corp.

   Chair, IBIS Open Forum

 

----------------------------------------------------= - -------------------

 

        &nbs= p;             = I B I S   S U M M I T   M E E T I N G

 

          &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp; THIRD CALL FOR

 

         &nb= sp;            = PARTICIPATION & PRESENTATIONS

 

----------------------------------------------------= - -------------------

 

Time/Date:       =  Friday, January 30, 2015 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM

 

Location:       &= nbsp;      Santa Clara Convention Center

5101 Great America Parkway

Santa Clara, California, USA

 

Room:        &nbs= p;          Great America Meet= ing Room 2

 

Content:       &n= bsp;      Presentations and Discussions=

 

Cost:        = ;            &n= bsp; FREE

 

Sponsors:       &= nbsp;    IBIS Open Forum, DesignCon

 

We are seeking more co-sp= onsors. The benefits to sponsors include recognition at the meeting and ack= nowledgement in the Calls for Papers and meeting minutes.

 

Your financial support st= rengthens the organization by allowing IBIS to focus resources on industry = activities rather than raising money. You will receive generous thanks and = public acknowledgement for your support.

 

Please contact Michael Mi= rmak <michael.mirmak@intel.c= om>  for co-sponsorship= information.

 

BACKGROUND

 

         &nb= sp;      DesignCon 2015 Conference:

        &nbs= p;       January 27 - 30, 2015

 

        &nbs= p;       Santa Clara Convention Center<= /p>

        &nbs= p;       Santa Clara, CA

     &nbs= p;          http://www.designcon.com/

 

     &nbs= p;          Conference Sched= ule:

        &nbs= p;       http://www.designcon.com/santaclara/conference

 

DesignCon is the premier annual Silicon Valley event= for the electronic

design automation (EDA) and semiconductor industry. = Topics of current

interest to the IBIS Open Forum are addressed at Des= ignCon.

 

This meeting will be conducted as a formal IBIS meet= ing.

 

Presentations are expected to be available in an ele= ctronic

format, and minutes of the meeting will be issued. A= ny pending formal

decisions (votes) will be announced at least two wee= ks prior to the

meeting.

 

 

CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS

 

People involved in IBIS or related model development= , EDA tool development,

and digital circuit design are invited to participat= e in the Summit meeting.

If you plan to participate, please register with the= information below:

 

   Name:

 

   E-mail address:

 

   Company:

 

   Telephone:

 

Send your registration information to Michael Mirmak= <michael.mirmak@intel.com>   

 

Registration deadline is Friday, January 24, 2015 to= receive the free lunch.

 

IBIS participants receive a 15% discount on all-a= ccess DesignCon registration, but only through January 10th!&nbs= p; Please contact Michael Mirmak <michael.mirmak@intel.com> to obtain discounted registration information.

 

 

CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS

 

We are seeking presentations from individuals who ha= ve experiences of

interest to the IBIS modeling community. These can i= nclude, but are not

limited to:

 

   Demonstrations of modeling techniques

 

   Explanations of behavioral algorithms

 

   Descriptions of difficulties encountere= d

 

   Model correlation

 

   Modeling building experiences

 

   Comparisons to other modeling methods

 

   New technologies for modeling buffers a= nd components

 

   New technologies for modeling packaging= and interconnects

 

   Algorithmic modeling topics<= /p>

 

Presentations may be addressed to any and all levels= of IBIS experience,

from beginner to expert.

 

Presentation Format:

 

   Microsoft PowerPoint* or Adobe Acrobat*= electronic formats are favored

   and will be pre-loaded on a Microsoft W= indows*-based meeting laptop

   prior to the meeting. Materials will be= projected but handouts or

   other physical media are welcome.<= /o:p>

 

Time: Usually 15-45 minutes (allow time for question= s)

 

Electronic Archival:

 

   Presentations will be archived under th= e IBIS Summit website.

   Final submission deadline is Tuesday, J= anuary 20, 2015

 

If you plan a presentation, please supply the follow= ing information as

soon as possible:

 

   Presentation Title:

 

   Presenter Name:

 

   E-mail address:

 

   Company:

 

   Telephone:

 

   Estimated Time:

 

Send to Michael Mirmak <michael.mirmak@intel.com>

 

All submissions will be reviewed by the IBIS Board a= nd are subject to approval before

Presentation at the Summit.

 

Note, vendor-specific, confidential or product promo= tion material is forbidden at

IBIS summits. Presentations MUST be submitted by the= deadline for review.

The IBIS Open Forum reserves the right to reject sub= mitted presentations or

stop a scheduled presentation containing content tha= t has not been reviewed.

 

 

AGENDA

 

The agenda includes presentations, discussions, brea= ks, and a FREE

lunch. A formal list of speakers and topics will be = released one

week prior to the event.

 

 

HOTEL AND TRAVEL INFORMATION

 

The Hotel and Travel Link below provides a conferenc= e hotel discount, as

well as transportation suggestions:

 

    http://www.designcon.com/santaclara/registration/travel-and-venue.php <= o:p>

 


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Our apologies to the participants in today’s I= BIS Open Forum teleconference.  As we neared the end of the agenda, co= nnectivity to WebEx appeared to be interrupted for many, if not all those a= ttending.

 

Please consider the meeting adjourned.  The ad = hoc presentation from Walter Katz will be added to the agenda for the next = Open Forum teleconference, to be held March 20.  We will also decide o= n future meeting dates at that time.

 

Thank you and again, please accept our apologies for= the inconvenience.

 

-     &= nbsp;    Michael Mirmak

-     &= nbsp;    Intel Corp.

-     &= nbsp;    Chair, IBIS Open Forum

-     &= nbsp;    http://www.eda= .org/ibis/


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Testing has shown that I can easily generate the subscription requests for each of us to the new ibis@freelists.org and/or ibis-users@freelists.org lists once they are created. Once that is done I would approve each one and *the subscriptions would be completed with no interaction from anyone but me*. You would receive two emails per list, the first acknowledging your subscription request and the second affirming your subscription. As before, everyone would automatically be unsubscribed from the old lists at eda.org once on the new lists. Once this migration is complete, any IBIS list emails will have to be sent to ibis@freelists.org and ibis-users@freelists.org. If you have email filters for the incoming emails they will have to be adjusted accordingly. *Please reply with any feedback you have on this migration plan, preferably before this Friday.* Anyone is free to /not /be automatically subscribed to the new lists, or to be unsubscribed at any time. Under the new proposal this could happen fairly quickly. Timing will be discussed in the IBIS teleconference this Friday. Mike On 2/27/2015 6:15 PM, Mike LaBonte wrote: > > All, > > Please review this proposal to transition the _ibis@eda.org > _ and _ibis-users@eda.org > _ email lists to _ibis@freelists.org > _ and _ibis-users@freelists.org > _. Freelists is already used > successfully for IBIS task group email lists > . You may already receive task > group emails, and you can see a Freelists archive sample here > . Your feedback on this > proposed change is solicited, but first some details (or spare > yourself and jump to Proposal below). > > > Reasons to move IBIS email to Freelists > > * > > Freelists administrators have solved the DMARC/DKIM list problem, > which sometimes causes _ibis@eda.org _ and > ibis-users@eda.org emails to not reach about 10% of our > subscribers. This problem is most common, but not restricted to, > emails sent to the list from yahoo.com addresses. Some IBIS member > companies also have the problem that eda.org list emails sent by > employees are not received by any employees of that company. > > * > > Freelists has a nicely indexed email archive, much better than our > current archives produced by > software for which support was dropped long ago (Hypermail). > > * > > Freelists has integrated ShareIt social media linking, which > allows list messages to be easily shared by link with any of > hundreds of social media services. This can help propagate IBIS > messaging through social media and also help lead people back to > our own web content. > > * > > The Freelists administrator has said they have plenty of capacity > and now allow attachments up to 5MB, more than 10 times what > eda.org supports. > > * > > Freelists actively deals with any server reputation issues that > arise. This has been an ongoing problem for the eda.org list > server, which uses stanford.edu SMTP servers that apparently have > a reputation for producing much spam. Periodically a significant > percent of eda.org list subscribers fail to receive any IBIS > emails because their servers have blacklisted it. > > > Potential issues related to a transition to Freelists: > > * > > /Canada's Anti-Spam Legislation (CASL) requires email generators > to subscribe only those who opt in./ > Freelists is based in Canada and subject to the CASL requirements. > Therefore we would have to subscribe ourselves to the new lists, a > process that Freelists makes easy. We can investigate if there is > any opportunity for bulk subscription transfer for existing email > lists of obvious repute. > > * > > /Our existing email archives can not be moved into Freelists./ > We would have to leave our existing list message archive > behind, permanently archived in > HTML at eda.org. There are viruses in some of the archived > attachments, and they probably should not be propagated anyway. > > * > > /Our open inquiry email addresses (ibis-request, ibis-bug, > ibis-info, ibis-summit) are not supported./ > We would leave the email addresses such as ibis-request@eda.org > that we use for inquiries at eda.org. Emails to those addresses > are received only by IBIS Open Forum officers, and of course no > subscription is required. Freelists is not suitable for these > because it does not support "open" lists. These addresses receive > a lot of spam traffic anyway, and Freelists should be spared from > that to maintain our welcome. > > > Proposal: > > The details of the proposed transition are: > > * The new Freelists email lists will be created after the next IBIS > Open Forum teleconference, March 20. Like the current eda.org > lists each subscription will require my approval. Currently > subscribed addresses will be approved without inquiry. > * The IBIS website will be updated to point to the new lists but > also maintain links to the existing archives. List policy will > have the same provisions but be updated to reflect the new list > host. See the current policy in our existing email archive here > . > * A weekly email will be sent to the existing eda.org lists with > instructions for subscribing to the freelists.org lists. Note that > we encourage everyone interested in IBIS models to subscribe to at > least the "ibis-users" list. IBIS Open Forum member > representatives and anyone else interested in formal announcements > should also be subscribed to the "ibis" list. Most people are > currently subscribed to both. > * As addresses are subscribed to freelists.org they will be removed > from eda.org by me, no need to unsubscribe yourself. > * I will monitor email posts continuing to arrive at the eda.org > lists and ask the senders to subscribe to the corresponding > freelists.org list and repost there. In this case I will wait a > week before unsubscribing them from eda.org, to allow for > responses to be received. > * After the May 22 IBIS Open Forum teleconference a final notice > will be sent to the eda.org lists stating that all addresses > remaining in the eda.org lists will be unsubscribed 5 days later. > * Once the eda.org lists are emptied out the autoreply for any > incoming emails will /NOT /contain instructions for subscribing at > freelists. The reason for this is that the eda.org lists currently > autoreply to thousands of spam emails per month from unsubscribed > addresses, and we don't want to give them a new place to go to. > The lists will be instead deleted, resulting in "bad > address"bounces for any incoming email. > > > Your feedback: > > Please reply (preferably to just me) with any feedback you have by > March 18. > > 1. Are there any reasons not to move IBIS email lists to Freelists? > 2. Should this be done only if no one has to subscribe themselves to > the new lists? > 3. Should the dates or any other aspect of the proposed plan be changed? > 4. Anything else? > > Thanks in advance for you help. > > Mike LaBonte > IBIS Postmaster and Webmaster > - --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - --------------080408040906000707030607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit An update to the IBIS email migration protocol: Briefly, the original proposal was that the new IBIS ibis@freelists.org and ibis-users@freelists.org email lists would be created after the next IBIS Open Forum teleconference this Friday, and about two months would be allowed for each of us to subscribe ourselves.

Testing has shown that I can easily generate the subscription requests for each of us to the new ibis@freelists.org and/or ibis-users@freelists.org lists once they are created. Once that is done I would approve each one and the subscriptions would be completed with no interaction from anyone but me. You would receive two emails per list, the first acknowledging your subscription request and the second affirming your subscription. As before, everyone would automatically be unsubscribed from the old lists at eda.org once on the new lists.

Once this migration is complete, any IBIS list emails will have to be sent to ibis@freelists.org and ibis-users@freelists.org. If you have email filters for the incoming emails they will have to be adjusted accordingly.

Please reply with any feedback you have on this migration plan, preferably before this Friday. Anyone is free to not be automatically subscribed to the new lists, or to be unsubscribed at any time. Under the new proposal this could happen fairly quickly. Timing will be discussed in the IBIS teleconference this Friday.

Mike

On 2/27/2015 6:15 PM, Mike LaBonte wrote:

All,

Please review this proposal to transition the ibis@eda.org and ibis-users@eda.org email lists to ibis@freelists.org and ibis-users@freelists.org. Freelists is already used successfully for IBIS task group email lists. You may already receive task group emails, and you can see a Freelists archive sample here. Your feedback on this proposed change is solicited, but first some details (or spare yourself and jump to Proposal below).

Reasons to move IBIS email to Freelists

  • Freelists administrators have solved the DMARC/DKIM list problem, which sometimes causes ibis@eda.org and ibis-users@eda.org emails to not reach about 10% of our subscribers. This problem is most common, but not restricted to, emails sent to the list from yahoo.com addresses. Some IBIS member companies also have the problem that eda.org list emails sent by employees are not received by any employees of that company.

  • Freelists has a nicely indexed email archive, much better than our current archives produced by software for which support was dropped long ago (Hypermail).

  • Freelists has integrated ShareIt social media linking, which allows list messages to be easily shared by link with any of hundreds of social media services. This can help propagate IBIS messaging through social media and also help lead people back to our own web content.

  • The Freelists administrator has said they have plenty of capacity and now allow attachments up to 5MB, more than 10 times what eda.org supports.

  • Freelists actively deals with any server reputation issues that arise. This has been an ongoing problem for the eda.org list server, which uses stanford.edu SMTP servers that apparently have a reputation for producing much spam. Periodically a significant percent of eda.org list subscribers fail to receive any IBIS emails because their servers have blacklisted it.

Potential issues related to a transition to Freelists:

  • Canada's Anti-Spam Legislation (CASL) requires email generators to subscribe only those who opt in.
    Freelists is based in Canada and subject to the CASL requirements. Therefore we would have to subscribe ourselves to the new lists, a process that Freelists makes easy. We can investigate if there is any opportunity for bulk subscription transfer for existing email lists of obvious repute.

  • Our existing email archives can not be moved into Freelists.
    We would have to leave our existing list message archive behind, permanently archived in HTML at eda.org. There are viruses in some of the archived attachments, and they probably should not be propagated anyway.

  • Our open inquiry email addresses (ibis-request, ibis-bug, ibis-info, ibis-summit) are not supported.
    We would leave the email addresses such as ibis-request@eda.org that we use for inquiries at eda.org. Emails to those addresses are received only by IBIS Open Forum officers, and of course no subscription is required. Freelists is not suitable for these because it does not support "open" lists. These addresses receive a lot of spam traffic anyway, and Freelists should be spared from that to maintain our welcome.

Proposal:

The details of the proposed transition are:

  • The new Freelists email lists will be created after the next IBIS Open Forum teleconference, March 20. Like the current eda.org lists each subscription will require my approval. Currently subscribed addresses will be approved without inquiry.
  • The IBIS website will be updated to point to the new lists but also maintain links to the existing archives. List policy will have the same provisions but be updated to reflect the new list host. See the current policy in our existing email archive here.
  • A weekly email will be sent to the existing eda.org lists with instructions for subscribing to the freelists.org lists. Note that we encourage everyone interested in IBIS models to subscribe to at least the "ibis-users" list. IBIS Open Forum member representatives and anyone else interested in formal announcements should also be subscribed to the "ibis" list. Most people are currently subscribed to both.
  • As addresses are subscribed to freelists.org they will be removed from eda.org by me, no need to unsubscribe yourself.
  • I will monitor email posts continuing to arrive at the eda.org lists and ask the senders to subscribe to the corresponding freelists.org list and repost there. In this case I will wait a week before unsubscribing them from eda.org, to allow for responses to be received.
  • After the May 22 IBIS Open Forum teleconference a final notice will be sent to the eda.org lists stating that all addresses remaining in the eda.org lists will be unsubscribed 5 days later.
  • Once the eda.org lists are emptied out the autoreply for any incoming emails will NOT contain instructions for subscribing at freelists. The reason for this is that the eda.org lists currently autoreply to thousands of spam emails per month from unsubscribed addresses, and we don't want to give them a new place to go to. The lists will be instead deleted, resulting in "bad address"bounces for any incoming email.

Your feedback:

Please reply (preferably to just me) with any feedback you have by March 18.

  1. Are there any reasons not to move IBIS email lists to Freelists?
  2. Should this be done only if no one has to subscribe themselves to the new lists?
  3. Should the dates or any other aspect of the proposed plan be changed?
  4. Anything else?

Thanks in advance for you help.

Mike LaBonte
IBIS Postmaster and Webmaster



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