From owner-ibis Thu Aug 22 13:51:37 1996 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com (natsemi-bh.nsc.com [204.163.202.66]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00149 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id NAA11564 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:43:01 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma011021; Thu Aug 22 13:41:42 1996 Received: from lightning-gw.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA01428 for ibis-users@vhdl.org; Thu, 22 Aug 96 13:38:53 -0700 Received: from kural by rockie.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27880; Thu, 22 Aug 96 13:40:09 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 13:40:09 PDT From: huq@rockie.nsc.com (Syed Huq) Message-Id: <9608222040.AA27880@rockie.nsc.com> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: s2ibis2 and HSPICE Hi, I would like to talk to someone who has used the s2ibis2 translator on HSPICE. Can you pls drop me an E-mail ? Regards, Syed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Syed B. Huq huq@rockie.nsc.com ~ ~ Interface Applications Engineer ~ ~ National Semiconductor Corp. ~ ~ Tel:(408)721-4874; Fax:(408)721-4785 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-ibis Fri Aug 23 11:10:33 1996 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com (natsemi-bh.nsc.com [204.163.202.66]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24968 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id LAA06784 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:01:58 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma006682; Fri Aug 23 11:01:36 1996 Received: from lightning-gw.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA10005 for ibis-users@vhdl.org; Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:58:41 -0700 Received: from kural by rockie.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23671; Fri, 23 Aug 96 11:00:03 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 11:00:03 PDT From: huq@rockie.nsc.com (Syed Huq) Message-Id: <9608231800.AA23671@rockie.nsc.com> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: s2ibis2 on HSPICE Hi, The first thing I tried is run the s2ibis2 on the newtryme files in the test dir. It worked. I looked at the newtryme.s2i and newtryme.sp file. Here are some questions: 1)Why does the newtryme.sp file have all that commented information at the top of the netlist. I thought the newtryme.s2i defines all header and component information and the .sp file should only have netlist info. 2)My model requires defining model type for '3-state' and 'I/O'. s2ibis2 requires you to indicate input_pin and enable_pin that drives the output stage and these have to be defined in the pin list. The input_pin and enable_pin are actually internal spice nodes that drive the output stage. So, how do I create 'dummy' models to define these internal nodes. Regards, Syed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Syed B. Huq huq@rockie.nsc.com ~ ~ Interface Applications Engineer ~ ~ National Semiconductor Corp. ~ ~ Tel:(408)721-4874; Fax:(408)721-4785 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-ibis Mon Aug 26 14:13:20 1996 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com (natsemi-bh.nsc.com [204.163.202.66]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10009 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id OAA00331; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:04:48 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000190; Mon Aug 26 14:04:28 1996 Received: from lightning-gw.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA01888 for ibis-users@vhdl.org; Mon, 26 Aug 96 14:01:09 -0700 Received: from kural by rockie.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25331; Mon, 26 Aug 96 14:02:55 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 14:02:55 PDT From: huq@rockie.nsc.com (Syed Huq) Message-Id: <9608262102.AA25331@rockie.nsc.com> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org, awglaser@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: error msg from s2ibis2 Hi, Can anyone comment on what these error message mean when I run s2ibis2 ? I am showing the .msg, .st0, .su0 and the [Pin] defination of my .s2i file. THis is the .msg file the run keeps mentioning to see for error messages. It hardly says anything ... -------------------------------------------------------------------- >error ***** hspice job aborted 32.3 real 21.3 user 4.1 sys -------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the .st0 file. All I see is "***difficulty in reading input": --------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** H S P I C E -- 95.3 (950711) 13:29:44 96/08/26 sun4 Input File: pct1.spi lic: USER: huq HOSTNAME: kural HOSTID: 5721e015 lic: contacting server: apollo lic: Server permit path: /usr/local/hspice/96/permit.hsp lic: Site: nat_ppg_sclara Created: 960328 Order#: 62311 lic: token number 328 allocated_SJF Init: hspice initialization file: /usr/local/hspice/95/hspice.ini init: begin read circuit files, cpu clock= 7.78E+00 option icsweep = 1 option parhier = global option ingold = 2 option artist = 2 option psf = 2 option probe = 0 option ingold = 2 init: end read circuit files, cpu clock= 2.51E+01 memory= 1908 kb init: begin check errors, cpu clock= 2.51E+01 >error ***difficulty in reading input >error ***** hspice job aborted lic: Releasing license for hspice This is the .su0 file. Not sure what the "node value" "fatal" means: -------------------------------------------------------------------- header "PSFversion" "1.00" "simulator" "HSPICE" "version" "95.3" "rundate" "13:29:44 96/08/26" "runtitle" "* typ power clamp curve for model lm_input " "runtype" "Summary Information" "op point time" " 0.00" "op point iterations" " 0" "total cpu time" " 24.57" "node value" "fatal" "operating point" "invalid" "ac analysis" "invalid" "dc sweep" "invalid" "transient analysis" "invalid" trailer end -------------------------------------------------------------------- THis is how my [Pin] section looks like in .s2i file: From owner-ibis Mon Aug 26 14:55:06 1996 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com (natsemi-bh.nsc.com [204.163.202.66]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10328 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id OAA18095; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:46:35 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017871; Mon Aug 26 14:46:06 1996 Received: from lightning-gw.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA06535 for ibis-users@vhdl.org; Mon, 26 Aug 96 14:42:46 -0700 Received: from kural by rockie.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26163; Mon, 26 Aug 96 14:44:31 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 14:44:31 PDT From: huq@rockie.nsc.com (Syed Huq) Message-Id: <9608262144.AA26163@rockie.nsc.com> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org, awglaser@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: error msg from s2ibis2 - retransmission Sorry for re-transmission. The last one somehow lost the end of my message. Syed. ----- Begin Included Message ----- From huq Mon Aug 26 14:02:54 1996 To: ibis-users@vhdl.org, awglaser@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: error msg from s2ibis2 Content-Length: 2692 Hi, Can anyone comment on what these error message mean when I run s2ibis2 ? I am showing the .msg, .st0, .su0 and the [Pin] defination of my .s2i file. THis is the .msg file the run keeps mentioning to see for error messages. It hardly says anything ... -------------------------------------------------------------------- >error ***** hspice job aborted 32.3 real 21.3 user 4.1 sys -------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the .st0 file. All I see is "***difficulty in reading input": --------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** H S P I C E -- 95.3 (950711) 13:29:44 96/08/26 sun4 Input File: pct1.spi lic: USER: huq HOSTNAME: kural HOSTID: 5721e015 lic: contacting server: apollo lic: Server permit path: /usr/local/hspice/96/permit.hsp lic: Site: nat_ppg_sclara Created: 960328 Order#: 62311 lic: token number 328 allocated_SJF Init: hspice initialization file: /usr/local/hspice/95/hspice.ini init: begin read circuit files, cpu clock= 7.78E+00 option icsweep = 1 option parhier = global option ingold = 2 option artist = 2 option psf = 2 option probe = 0 option ingold = 2 init: end read circuit files, cpu clock= 2.51E+01 memory= 1908 kb init: begin check errors, cpu clock= 2.51E+01 >error ***difficulty in reading input >error ***** hspice job aborted lic: Releasing license for hspice This is the .su0 file. Not sure what the "node value" "fatal" means: -------------------------------------------------------------------- header "PSFversion" "1.00" "simulator" "HSPICE" "version" "95.3" "rundate" "13:29:44 96/08/26" "runtitle" "* typ power clamp curve for model lm_input " "runtype" "Summary Information" "op point time" " 0.00" "op point iterations" " 0" "total cpu time" " 24.57" "node value" "fatal" "operating point" "invalid" "ac analysis" "invalid" "dc sweep" "invalid" "transient analysis" "invalid" trailer end -------------------------------------------------------------------- THis is how my [Pin] section looks like in .s2i file: From owner-ibis Tue Aug 27 08:39:24 1996 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com (natsemi-bh.nsc.com [204.163.202.66]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02016 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id IAA00953; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:30:51 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000720; Tue Aug 27 08:30:17 1996 Received: from lightning-gw.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA13219 for ibis-users@vhdl.org; Tue, 27 Aug 96 08:26:51 -0700 Received: from kural by rockie.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17878; Tue, 27 Aug 96 08:28:42 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 08:28:42 PDT From: huq@rockie.nsc.com (Syed Huq) Message-Id: <9608271528.AA17878@rockie.nsc.com> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org, awglaser@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: error msg from s2ibis2 - PartII Hi, The last portion of my mail related to the errors I am getting on using s2ibis2(HSPICE). Let me know if anyone of you have encountered this before. THis is how my [Pin] section looks like in .s2i file: From owner-ibis Tue Aug 27 14:37:11 1996 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com (natsemi-bh.nsc.com [204.163.202.66]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05408 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id OAA23888; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:28:33 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023746; Tue Aug 27 14:28:23 1996 Received: from lightning-gw.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA05771 for ibis-users@vhdl.org; Tue, 27 Aug 96 14:24:56 -0700 Received: from kural by rockie.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25298; Tue, 27 Aug 96 14:26:49 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 14:26:49 PDT From: huq@rockie.nsc.com (Syed Huq) Message-Id: <9608272126.AA25298@rockie.nsc.com> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org, awglaser@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: error msg from s2ibis2 - PartII Hi, The last portion of my mail related to the errors I am getting on using s2ibis2(HSPICE). Let me know if anyone of you have encountered this before. THis is how my [Pin] section looks like in .s2i file: From owner-ibis Wed Aug 28 15:59:12 1996 Received: from relayhost.vlsi.com (tweety.vlsi.com [134.27.20.23]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01072 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:59:11 -0700 (PDT) From: harish.patel@tempe.vlsi.com Received: from relayhost.tempe.vlsi.com (anubis.tempe.vlsi.com [134.27.128.1]) by relayhost.vlsi.com (8.6.12/Hub-Perlotto/050895) with ESMTP id PAA18153 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:48:29 -0700 Received: from pcdmail.tempe.vlsi.com (hole.tempe.vlsi.com [134.27.128.11]) by relayhost.tempe.vlsi.com (8.6.9/Hub-Perlotto/101195) with ESMTP id PAA07951 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:48:27 -0700 Received: from mardi (mardi [134.27.133.22]) by pcdmail.tempe.vlsi.com (8.6.9/Hub-Perlotto/032095) with SMTP id PAA27657 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:48:26 -0700 Received: by mardi id AA13511; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:48:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:48:07 -0700 Message-Id: <9608282248.AA13511@mardi> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: about s2ibis2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: HPaZaFD+5GZxNuyo3OYh9w== I am trying ti generate IBIS model for bi-directional buffer with output enable. I have defined output-enable pin in my.s2i [Pin] 1 vdd VCC POWER 2 0 GND GND 3 in Inp Input1 5 oen En1 Enable1 [Model] Enable1 [Model type] Input [Polarity] Inverting [Model File] model.typ model.min model.max When s2ibis2 generated diff spi files for diff runs, it does not set DC conditions for oen pin. So job fails due to this and it says in out file: **error**: no dc path to ground from node 0:oen When I manually edit a spice file and setup oen, job concludes. Has anyone come across this problem? ========================================================================= | Harish Patel | VLSI Technology, Inc. === | | Design Engineer | Computing Products Group /0 0\ | | | 8375 S River Parkway, MS 265 [ | ] | | harish.patel@tempe.vlsi.com | Tempe, AZ 85284 \ ~ / | | 602-752-6202/Fax:602-752-6002 | --- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-ibis Wed Aug 28 18:04:45 1996 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com (chronos.synopsys.com [146.225.8.10]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02048 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icx.com (fw.icx.com) by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA06190 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:54:31 -0700 Received: by icx.com (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.2) id ; Wed, 28 Aug 96 17:53 PDT Received: by icx.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.14) id ; Wed, 28 Aug 96 16:30 PDT Received: by icx.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.14) id ; Wed, 28 Aug 96 16:32 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 96 16:32 PDT From: bob@icx.com ( Bob Ross) To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: Forwarded: EDIF Version 4 0 0 changes IBIS Committee I am having problems with the ibis@vhdl.org reflector, so I am using the above reflector to get this message out. Does anyone have inputs or concerns with the proposal below for EDIF 4 0 0? Bob Ross Interconnectix, Inc. Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:39:51 +0100 From: Alan R Williams Message-Id: <199608271239.NAA04794@cheetah.cs.man.ac.uk> To: bob@icx.com Subject: EDIF Version 4 0 0 changes Hello Bob, As part of finishing the EIA balloting process, we are notifying all reviewers of the changes which were made as a result of their comments. With regard to the interfacing with IBIS files, the main change has been the introduction on pcbPartCharacteristic for EDIF parts. The pcbPartCharacteristic can be either a pcbPassivePartCharacteristic (RLC values) or a pcbIbisPartCharacteristic which specifies the IBIS file, the IBIS component within that file and matches up the terminals of the EDIF part to the pins of the IBIS component. I am enclosing the changes in the syntax which were made as a result of your comment. Could you please confirm by c.o.b. Friday 31st August that you are satisfied with the outcome? If we do not hear otherwise, we will assume that you are satisfied with the changes which have been made. Alan Williams -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Williams, Room IT301, Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, U.K. Tel: +44 161 275 6270 Fax: +44 161 275 6280 e-mail: alanrw@cs.man.ac.uk pcbIbisComponentIdentification ::= '(' 'pcbIbisComponentIdentification' stringToken ')' pcbIbisFileIdentification ::= '(' 'pcbIbisFileIdentification' stringToken ')' pcbIbisFileInformation ::= '(' 'pcbIbisFileInformation' pcbIbisFileInformationNameDef pcbIbisFileIdentification { | property } ')' pcbIbisFileInformationNameCaseSensitive ::= '(' 'pcbIbisFileInformationNameCaseSensitive' booleanToken ')' pcbIbisFileInformationNameDef ::= nameDef pcbIbisPartCharacteristic ::= '(' 'pcbIbisPartCharacteristic' pcbIbisFileInformation pcbIbisComponentIdentification { pcbIbisPinBinding } ')' pcbIbisPinBinding ::= '(' 'pcbIbisPinBinding' pcbIbisPinBindingNameDef ( pcbElectricalPartTerminalRef | pcbJumperPartTerminalRef | pcbConnectorPartTerminalRef ) pcbIbisPinIdentification { property } ')' pcbIbisPinBindingNameDef ::= nameDef pcbIbisPinIdentification ::= '(' 'pcbIbisPinIdentification' stringToken ')' pcbJumperPart ::= '(' 'pcbJumperPart' libraryObjectNameDef pcbPartHeader ( pcbPinPackageRef | pcbBallPackageRef | externalNoData ) { pcbJumperPartTerminal | } ')' pcbPackagedConnectorPart ::= '(' 'pcbPackagedConnectorPart' libraryObjectNameDef pcbPartHeader ( pcbPinPackageRef | pcbBallPackageRef | externalNoData ) ( pcbSocket | pcbDiscreteConnector ) { pcbPackagedConnectorPartTerminal | } ')' pcbPackagedElectricalPart ::= '(' 'pcbPackagedElectricalPart' libraryObjectNameDef pcbPartHeader ( pcbPinPackageRef | pcbBallPackageRef | externalNoData ) pcbPackagedElectricalPartType { } ')' pcbPartCharacteristic ::= '(' 'pcbPartCharacteristic' ( pcbPassivePartCharacteristic | pcbIbisPartCharacteristic ) ')' pcbPassivePartCapacitance ::= '(' 'pcbPassivePartCapacitance' capacitanceValue ')' pcbPassivePartCharacteristic ::= '(' 'pcbPassivePartCharacteristic' { | | } ')' pcbPassivePartInductance ::= '(' 'pcbPassivePartInductance' tolerancedInductanceValue ')' pcbPassivePartResistance ::= '(' 'pcbPassivePartResistance' tolerancedResistanceValue ')' pcbPrintedConnectorPart ::= '(' 'pcbPrintedConnectorPart' libraryObjectNameDef pcbPartHeader { | pcbPrintedConnectorPartTerminal | pcbPrintedPartSymbol } ')' pcbPrintedElectricalPart ::= '(' 'pcbPrintedElectricalPart' libraryObjectNameDef pcbPartHeader pcbPrintedElectricalPartType { | pcbPrintedPartSymbol } ')' -------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-ibis Wed Aug 28 21:40:57 1996 Received: from pacific.mea.com (pacific.mea.com [140.237.7.4]) by vhdl.vhdl.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03610 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.msai.mea.com by pacific.mea.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA21865; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:30:37 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gatekeeper.msai.mea.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA29082; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:16:14 -0400 Received: from unknown(198.28.5.20) by gatekeeper.msai.mea.com via smap (V1.3) id sma029080; Thu Aug 29 00:15:57 1996 Received: from sbedrock.msai.mea.com (shared [192.65.252.62]) by msai.mea.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA07189; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:32:05 -0400 Received: from sfred.msaiasic by sbedrock.msai.mea.com (4.1/mh-version 2.4) id AA07593; Thu, 29 Aug 96 00:29:55 EDT Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 00:29:55 EDT From: hoang@msai.mea.com (Hoang Nguyen) Message-Id: <9608290429.AA07593@sbedrock.msai.mea.com> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org, harish.patel@tempe.vlsi.com Subject: Re: about s2ibis2 Harish, I had the same problem. For that, I need to provide a path to ground from the node that gives me the error; i.e. connect node oen to a resistor (~1K Ohm or so) which is grounded on one end. Hoang Nguyen Mitsubishi Semiconductor America, Inc. Durham, North Carolina > From owner-ibis@vhdl.vhdl.org Wed Aug 28 20:08:48 1996 > From: harish.patel@tempe.vlsi.com > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:48:07 -0700 > To: ibis-users@vhdl.org > Subject: about s2ibis2 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset=us-ascii> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Md5: HPaZaFD+5GZxNuyo3OYh9w== > Content-Length: 1151 > > I am trying ti generate IBIS model for bi-directional buffer with output > enable. > > I have defined output-enable pin in my.s2i > > [Pin] > 1 vdd VCC POWER > 2 0 GND GND > 3 in Inp Input1 > 5 oen En1 Enable1 > > [Model] Enable1 > [Model type] Input > [Polarity] Inverting > [Model File] model.typ model.min model.max > > When s2ibis2 generated diff spi files for diff runs, it does not set > DC conditions for oen pin. So job fails due to this and it says in out file: > > **error**: no dc path to ground from node 0:oen > > When I manually edit a spice file and setup oen, job concludes. > > Has anyone come across this problem? > > > ========================================================================= > | Harish Patel | VLSI Technology, Inc. === | > | Design Engineer | Computing Products Group /0 0\ | > | | 8375 S River Parkway, MS 265 [ | ] | > | harish.patel@tempe.vlsi.com | Tempe, AZ 85284 \ ~ / | > | 602-752-6202/Fax:602-752-6002 | --- | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >