From owner-ibis Mon Feb 2 13:57:55 1998 Received: from newsgw.mentorg.com (newsgw.mentorg.com [137.202.128.5]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA14315; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from emicx.wv.mentorg.com by newsgw.mentorg.com (8.6.8.1/CF5.22R) id NAA13476; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:55:01 -0800 Received: from bob by emicx.wv.mentorg.com (8.7.5/CF5.38R) id NAA14681; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:54:59 -0800 (PST) From: bobr@emicx.mentorg.com (Bob Ross) Received: by bob (4.1/CF5.23L) id AA06970; Mon, 2 Feb 98 13:55:06 PST Date: Mon, 2 Feb 98 13:55:06 PST Message-Id: <9802022155.AA06970@bob> To: harunys@haselect.com, ibis-users@eda.org, ibis@eda.org Subject: Re: Consistancy between various simulators using IBIS models Haruny: This would be a good study for the IBIS Users group. However, I want to keep company-specific issues off the IBIS reflectors. If there is any public discussion, then use the SI reflectors. Best Regards, Bob Ross Interconnectix > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 00:59:28 -0500 > To: ibis@eda.org > From: Haruny Said > Subject: Consistancy between various simulators using IBIS models > Hi, > has anybody done any research or tests into how well the results from > different SI tools match up when using the same IBIS model to analyse the > same PCB design? > I ask because we get a lot of conflicting feedback about our models from > users of different tools. > Haruny Said > H.A.S. Electronics, Inc. > 33 Boston Post Rd West > Suite 270 > Marlborough > MA 01752 > Email: Harunys@haselect.com > WWW: http://www.haselect.com > Phone: (508) 624 6227 > Fax: (508) 624 6054 From owner-ibis Tue Feb 3 04:01:57 1998 Received: from redac.co.uk (redactcouk.redac.co.uk [193.132.126.2]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id EAA29393; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 04:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from redpo by redac.co.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA29069; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:01:11 +0000 Received: from ACOL.redac.co.uk by redpo (SMI-8.6/Redac-Interior-Gateway-V1.1) id LAA08880; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:59:21 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980203120948.00698b70@redpo> X-Sender: johnb@redpo X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 12:09:48 +0000 To: ibis-users@eda.org, ibis@eda.org From: John Berrie Subject: Pin to model mapping Hello IBISers, Since we are currently in the process of constructing an IBIS extractor, it would be really useful if someone could answer the following question: In some of the IBIS part models on the web site, there is an incomplete mapping of pins to driver and receiver models. 1. Is this intentional? 2. Is there a default mapping which takes place if a pin within a part does not have an eplicit mapping? One of the parts only had two pin mappings, even though the part has more than 14 pins, and multiple drivers/receivers (a buffer chip). Thank you in advance John John Berrie Chief Application Engineer Dynamic Solutions Zuken-Redac Tewkesbury U.K. From owner-ibis Tue Feb 3 04:23:10 1998 Received: from mail11.digital.com (mail11.digital.com [192.208.46.10]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id EAA29714; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 04:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbuamazko2ae.zko.dec.com (sbuamazko2ae.zko.dec.com [16.29.160.92]) by mail11.digital.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/WV1.0c) with ESMTP id HAA03310; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 07:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by sbuamazko2ae.zko.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 07:22:03 -0500 Message-ID: <890ED1999E9CD01197A10000F84AA1F783D4EF@sbuamapko3cc.eng.pko.dec.com> From: Andrew Ingraham To: ibis-users@eda.org, ibis@eda.org, "'John Berrie'" Subject: RE: Pin to model mapping Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 07:22:02 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain My guess: Either (a) the person who made the IBIS models didn't bother finding out the true pin/model mapping, leaving it as an "exercise for the user," or (b) the pinout wasn't fixed when the model was created. It's a pain in the neck because it can make the model unusable. Regards, Andy From owner-ibis Tue Feb 10 15:24:42 1998 Received: from wile.nesa.com ([204.240.29.30]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA08757 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from porky.nesa.com(204.240.29.45) by wile.nesa.com via smap (V1.3) id sma001941; Tue Feb 10 15:25:24 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980210152524.00775a38@mail.nesa.com> X-Sender: breda@mail.nesa.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:25:24 -0500 To: si-list@silab.Eng.Sun.COM, ibis-users@eda.org From: Kathy Breda Subject: Directions/Agenda for 2/12/98 IBIS Users' Forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings: Please find attached directions to the next IBIS Users' Forum. Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 Time: 3:00 PM Location: EMC, Milford, MA Location **If you have a moment to respond and let me know if you are attending that would be helpful with room management. Directions to EMC: o Route 495 to Exit 19 (Rte 109 Milford) (this is 3 exits south of the Mass Pike). o Get on 109, go towards Milford. o Proceed on 109 West through set of lights to Richards Restaurant on left hand side. o Take left immediately after Richards onto Birch Street. o Follow Birch Street to end, take right onto Maple Street. o Bear left at fork, pass Waters Chromatography on left o Proceed past Waters/EMC Shipping Roads to the EMC Main Entrance, on left. o Follow signs to building E, enter at front entrance. o We will be meeting in the 'Manufacturing Conference Room', on the 2nd floor Ask for Fawn Engelmann or Fabrizio Zanella. Agenda: o Report back on discussions that took place at the IBIS summit meeting in San Jose, CA on January 26, 1998. o Update from "Accuracy" sub-committee regarding board devices and possible redesign of the board. o Possible update from "Software Aspects of IBIS" sub-committee (Paul Galloway is travelling and report may not be available. o Any Other Business of Interest Thanks and See you there! Ed Sayre and Kathy Breda From owner-ibis Wed Feb 11 07:27:05 1998 Received: from gwsmtp.thomson.fr (gwsmtp.thomson.fr [195.101.37.140]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id HAA09669 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:27:02 -0800 (PST) From: JEAN-MARC.J.M.C.CLAVEAU@RCM.thomson.fr Received: by gwsmtp.thomson.fr (1.0.242); 11 Feb 1998 16:21:37 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=THOMSON/ADMD=ATLAS/C=FR; Relayed; 11 Feb 1998 14:23:35 +0000 Date: 11 Feb 1998 14:23:35 +0000 Delivery-Date: 11 Feb 1998 16:21:37 +0000 Message-Type: Multiple Part X400-Originator: JEAN-MARC.J.M.C.CLAVEAU@RCM.thomson.fr X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=THOMSON/ADMD=ATLAS/C=FR;4227231611021998/A77225/BIGMAN] X400-Recipients: ibis-users@vhdl.org X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 Message-ID: <4227231611021998/A77225/BIGMAN/11C25C171A00* @MHS> Importance: normal Subject: IBIS models Autoforwarded: FALSE To: ibis-users@vhdl.org (Receipt Notification Requested) (Reply requested) Priority: normal Conversion: Allowed Conversion-With-Loss: Allowed Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Content-Identifier: 11C25C171A00 Hello all I'm searching for IBIS models of the following components (or similar) : BAV70 BAW56 BAV70 082 40/105 SOL8/P L78M05ABDT LT1129IQ MC1496D MC1350D 74ACT04 55/125 SOL14/P 74HC08 40/85 SOL14/P SO2222A SO2907A IRL510S Do you know if I can find them and where ? Thanks a lot J-M. Claveau From owner-ibis Wed Feb 11 11:01:42 1998 Received: from mail11.digital.com (mail11.digital.com [192.208.46.10]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA25633 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:01:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbuamazko2ae.zko.dec.com (sbuamazko2ae.zko.dec.com [16.29.160.92]) by mail11.digital.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/WV1.0c) with ESMTP id NAA05752 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by sbuamazko2ae.zko.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id <1XSHKVKF>; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:58:57 -0500 Message-ID: <71EEA9EA5129D1118EA30000F840EBF138DBBF@sbuamapko3bc.eng.pko.dec.com> From: Greg Edlund To: "'si-list@silab.eng.sun.com'" , "'ibis-users@vhdl.org'" Subject: [SI-LIST]: [MODEL CREATION] & IBIS models Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:51:37 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain I'll respond to both Gustavo Blando and J-M. Claveau since they are essentially asking the same question. My colleague and I presented a paper on making behavioral models at DesignCon98 last month. There were several other papers on the topic as well. I think it's safe to say that collecting accurate IBIS models is a dilemma many of us are facing today. There are various sources of these models, and you've probably heard from some of them already. There are companies that make models for a living, and there are IC vendors that supply models as a service to their customers. Most of latter are publicly available. When you get a model, here are some things to consider: 1. Does the model pass the IBIS syntax checker? If it doesn't, then it wasn't checked out. 2. Get a hold of the paper, "Practical Issues with IBIS Models," by Bob Ross. You can find it at the IBIS web site, www.eia.org/eig/ibis/ibis.htm, under "Articles." 3. How well does the model agree with the real component(s)? 4. If the model was created from a sample part, what were the processing conditions? Typical? Gustavo, you already touched on some of these issues. Most of us need to know the typical and the spread around typical so we can determine operating margins. Consider temperature and voltage as well. 5. Make sure the model creator measured capacitance as well as IV curves and rise/fall times. 6. What kind of driver is it, and what advanced modeling features might it require? 7. Under what loading conditions is the model valid? Validating the model with a standard load does not cover a transmission line load! Greg ----- original messages attached below ----- We are designing several boards and we are having a very difficult time getting models directly from the vendors. I would like to have some information of places that can generate (create) models for me. The kind of models that I am looking for are SPICE, IBIS, QUAD I would like to know from these vendor, how do they generate models, against what? (measured), how do the measure the models, on the pin or on the die, can they provide different corners models (Strong Process, Weak Process), what about temperature and Voltage...... etc. Also If possible I would like to know some personal experiences from people that have already bought models before (are them good??) Any information will be really appreciated. Thanks -------------------------------- Gustavo J. Blando Stratus Computer Hardware Design Engineer Phone:(508)-490-6619 e-mail:gblando@hw.stratus.com -------------------------------- Hello all I'm searching for IBIS models of the following components (or similar) : BAV70 BAW56 BAV70 082 40/105 SOL8/P L78M05ABDT LT1129IQ MC1496D MC1350D 74ACT04 55/125 SOL14/P 74HC08 40/85 SOL14/P SO2222A SO2907A IRL510S Do you know if I can find them and where ? Thanks a lot J-M. Claveau ---------- Greg Edlund, Principal Engineer Server Product Development Digital Equipment Corp. 129 Parker St. PKO3-1/20C Maynard, MA 01754 (978) 493-4157 voice (978) 493-0941 FAX greg.edlund@digital.com From owner-ibis Thu Feb 12 11:01:44 1998 Received: from elf.ecitele.com (sprite1.ecitele.com [147.234.56.1]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA21653 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:01:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecitele.com (nt-cad2 [147.234.17.253]) by elf.ecitele.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA09567 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 20:52:44 +0200 Message-ID: <34E345E0.1472D832@ecitele.com> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 20:56:32 +0200 From: Daniel Adar Organization: ECI Telecom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: ECL Models by s2ibis2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does the s2ibis2 software can handle ECL spice models. Thanks, Daniel Adar ECI Telecom, Israel From owner-ibis Thu Feb 19 14:13:06 1998 Received: from newsgw.mentorg.com (newsgw.mentorg.com [192.94.38.66]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA22560; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from emicx.wv.mentorg.com by newsgw.mentorg.com (8.8.8/CF5.40F) id OAA27005; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from bob by emicx.wv.mentorg.com (8.7.5/CF5.38R) id OAA15702; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:09:50 -0800 (PST) From: bobr@emicx.mentorg.com (Bob Ross) Received: by bob (4.1/CF5.23L) id AA21327; Thu, 19 Feb 98 14:10:08 PST Date: Thu, 19 Feb 98 14:10:08 PST Message-Id: <9802192210.AA21327@bob> To: ibis-users@eda.org, ibis@eda.org, si-list@silab.eng.sun.com Subject: AGENDA EUROPEAN IBIS SUMMIT 2/26/98 Cc: bobr@emicx.mentorg.com AGENDA EUROPEAN IBIS SUMMIT MEETING Concorde-Lafayette Hotel Paris, France February 26, 1998 8:30 REFRESHMENTS 9:00 Welcome, IBIS Activities Bob Ross, Interconnectix/Mentor Graphics, USA 9:25 IBIS Users Group Paul Galloway, Cadence, USA 9:45 Use of IBIS in Alcatel John Fitzpatrick, Alcatel, France 10:25 IBIS Model Development at National Semiconductor Corporation Syed Huq, National Semiconductor, USA 10:45 BREAK 11:00 IBIS Models, Spice vs. Measurement Tom Dagostino, Zeelan Technology/Mentor Graphics, USA 11:30 Required IBIS Enhancements Gerald Bannert, Siemens, Germany 12:00 Challenges in Using IBIS in High Frequency Applications Prakash Radhakrishnan, Intel, USA 12:30 LUNCH 13:30 IBIS Models and EMC Simulation Standardization Status Christian Marot, Siemens, France 14:00 Future Component Characterization for EMI Analysis Werner Rissiek, Incases, Germany 14:30 IBIS Models for EMC and High-Frequency Devices Razvan Ene, High Design Technology, Italy 15:15 BREAK 15:30 SI-Analysis with HSPICE Based on IBIS Behavioral Models Bernhard Unger, Siemens, Germany 16:00 Problems in V-T Curve Modeling and Simulation C. Kumar, Cadence, USA 16:30 BIRD42.3 Algorithm Considerations Bob Ross, Interconnectix/Mentor Graphics, USA 16:45 GROUP DISCUSSION Technical Comments IBIS Usage Comments Questions About the EIA IBIS Open Forum Forming a European IBIS Users Group 17:00 ADJOURN From owner-ibis Sat Feb 21 01:38:01 1998 Received: from belpak.belpak.minsk.by (belpak.minsk.by [193.232.248.10]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id BAA27792 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 01:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rbp by belpak.belpak.minsk.by id aa19806; 21 Feb 98 11:36 EET Received: by rbp.belpak.minsk.by (dMail for DOS v2.05b2, 20Mar97); Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:39:55 +0200 To: ibis_users@eda.org Message-Id: Organization: RusBelPribor From: "Alexandr Sidorov" Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:39:55 +0200 (GMT) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for DOS v2.05b2] Subject: some IBIS models Lines: 13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All. I'm looking for some IBIS models: uPD48245L-A70 (NEC VRAM); CY7C4231-10 (CYPRESS Synchronous FIFO). Thanks a lot. Alexander Sidorov (shura@rbp.belpak.minsk.by), RusBelPribor Co., Minsk, Belarus. From owner-ibis Sat Feb 21 01:46:01 1998 Received: from belpak.belpak.minsk.by (belpak.minsk.by [193.232.248.10]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id BAA27822 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 01:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rbp by belpak.belpak.minsk.by id aa21851; 21 Feb 98 11:44 EET Received: by rbp.belpak.minsk.by (dMail for DOS v2.05b2, 20Mar97); Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:47:54 +0200 To: ibis-users@eda.org Message-Id: Organization: RusBelPribor From: "Alexandr Sidorov" Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:47:54 +0200 (GMT) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for DOS v2.05b2] Subject: Re:some IBIS models Lines: 13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all. I'm looking for some IBIS (or Spice, Zeelan, Quad) models: uPD48245L-A70 (NEC VRAM) CY7C4231-10 (CYPRESS FIFO) Does anybody meet them ? Thanks a lot. Alexander Sidorov (shura@rbp.belpak.minsk.by), RusBelPribor Co. Minsk, Belarus. From owner-ibis Sun Feb 22 13:12:44 1998 Received: from wile.nesa.com ([204.240.29.30]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA01009 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 13:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from porky.nesa.com(204.240.29.45) by wile.nesa.com via smap (V1.3) id sma014631; Sun Feb 22 14:00:18 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980222140017.006eb68c@mail.nesa.com> X-Sender: breda@mail.nesa.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:00:17 -0500 To: si-list@silab.Eng.Sun.COM, ibis-users@eda.org From: Kathy Breda Subject: IBIS User Forum Meeting Minutes - 2/12/98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ***Minutes of the IBIS Users Group meeting held at EMC on Thursday, February 12, 1998*** Thank you to Fabrizio Zanella, Fawn Engelmann and EMC for hosting this month's meeting and providing refreshments. I want to thank the members of the user forum in general for being so helpful in coordinating meeting space. This was a relatively quiet meeting. The purpose was to mainly catch up on the happenings from the IBIS Summit and DesignCon98. Overall, the group found the IBIS summit interesting and useful. The European IBIS summit meeting is being held on Thursday, February 26, 1998 in Paris, France. Paul Galloway of Cadence Design, IBIS User Forum and Software Aspects of IBIS... committee chairman, is attending the Paris meeting. Subcommittee on Accuracy: ------------------------ Notes from Greg Edlund's presentation Regarding the IBIS Summit *There is strong interest in the topic of model accuracy although there will be some disagreement about implementation. *We were encouraged by veterans of the IBIS committee to pursue the accuracy specification. IBIS was intended to be open-minded and user-driven. *Two IC vendors whish to be involved in the sub-committee on accuracy: TI and Fairchild! *Hyperlynx announced an exciting new product: IBIS Developer's Tool Kit for $ 3,000. *Users bring a valuable, and previously under-represented, contribution to the committee. *We have to face the simulation engine question someday soon - anonymously? *Do we need a full-scale accuracy test bed, i.e. models and simulation engines vs. test hardware? *How can we broaden the scope of the User's Group? There is a need for user education. Can we contribute to this need on a larger scale? A concept board is in the works for running IBIS models, etc. There is hope that the details of the board and its follow-on will be placed on the web site (see below re: web site). The next accuracy subcommittee meeting is being held, Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 3:00 at Digital, Maynard, MA. Contact Greg Edlund (greg.edlund@digital.com) if you would like more information. Other Business: --------------- *Next User Forum Meeting: Date: Thursday, March 19, 1998 Time: 3:00 PM Location: Digital Equipment Corp., Hudson, MA Customer Conf. Center, D309, HLO2/third floor. DIRECTIONS WILL BE SENT OUT SHORTLY WITH THE MEETING REMINDER! *User Web Site: We would like to develop an IBIS Users web site. Presentations, minutes,technical details regarding test boards and other pertinent technical information will be placed on the web site. This is just getting off the ground so stay tuned. Kathy Breda of NESA and Paul Galloway are going to be driving the development. Kathy spoke with Bob Ross while at DesignCon98 and received support for the activity. The User site will hyperlink to the formal IBIS site. *Distribution List: Kathy will be making available an e-mail distribution list of IBIS user group attendees to the group. This is on the to-do list and should be done by the next IBIS user group meeting in March. *There has been a request that "crash" courses on IBIS be made available. More discussion needed here. Ed Sayre offered to assist with a curriculum. Information of Interest: ----------------------- I thought the following IBIS contact information may be very useful to people. Hope it helps. IBIS CHAIR: Bob Ross (503) 603-2523, Fax (503) 639-3469 bob@icx.com Modeling Engineer, Interconnectix 10220 SW Nimbus Ave, K4, Portland, OR 97223 VICE CHAIR: Syed Huq (408) 721-4874, Fax: (408) 721-4785 huq@rockie.nsc.com Staff Applications Engineer, National Semiconductor, M/S A-2595 2900 Semiconductor Drive, Santa Clara, CA 95052 SECRETARY: Stephen Peters (503) 264-4108, Fax: (503) 264-4515 sjpeters@ichips.intel.com Senior Hardware Engineer, Intel Corporation M/S JF1-56 2111 NE 25th Ave. Hillsboro, Oregon 97124-5961 LIBRARIAN: Jon Powell (805) 988-8250, Fax: (805) 988-8259 jonp@qdt.com Senior Scientist, Viewlogic (formerly Quad Design) 1385 Del Norte Rd., Camarillo, CA 93010 The following e-mail addresses are used: ibis-request@eda.org To join, change, or drop from either the IBIS Open Forum Reflector (ibis@eda.org), the IBIS Users' Group Reflector (ibis-users@eda.org) or both. State your request. ibis-info@eda.org To obtain general information about IBIS, to ask specific questions for individual response, and to inquire about joining the EIA-IBIS Open Forum as a full Member. ibis@eda.org To send a message to the general IBIS Open Forum Reflector. This is used mostly for IBIS Standardization business and future IBIS technical enhancements. Job posting information is not permitted. ibis-users@eda.org To send a message to the IBIS Users' Group Reflector. This is used mostly for IBIS clarification, current modeling issues, and general user concerns. Job posting information is not permitted. ibischk-bug@eda.org To report ibischk2 parser bugs. The Bug Report Form Resides on eda.org in /pub/ibis/bugs/ibischk/bugform.txt along with reported bugs. To report s2ibis, s2ibis2 and s2iplt bugs, use the Bug Report Forms which reside under eda.org in /pub/ibis/bugs/s2ibis/bugs2i.txt, /pub/ibis/bugs/s2ibis2/bugs2i2.txt, & /pub/ibis/bugs/s2iplt/bugsplt.txt respectively. Information on IBIS technical contents, IBIS participants, and actual IBIS models are available on the IBIS Home page found by selecting the Electronic Information Group under: http://www.eia.org Check the pub/ibis directory on eda.org for more information on previous discussions and results. You can get on via FTP anonymous. "IBIS Spoken Here" placards are available from Jon Powell (jonp@qdt.com) for use at trade shows. From owner-ibis Thu Feb 26 09:27:36 1998 Received: from wile.nesa.com ([204.240.29.30]) by server.vhdl.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA06893 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from porky.nesa.com(204.240.29.45) by wile.nesa.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000846; Thu Feb 26 10:00:03 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980226100002.0077bfd4@mail.nesa.com> X-Sender: breda@mail.nesa.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:00:02 -0500 To: si-list@silab.Eng.Sun.COM, ibis-users@eda.org From: Kathy Breda Subject: Hyperlynx IBIS Developer Tool Kit - Action Item from IBIS User Meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings: One of the action items from the February 12, 1998 IBIS User Meeting was to find out more about the Hyperlynx developer tool kit. Kellee Crisafulli at Hyperlynx was kind enough to supply all the information needed to procure this tool kit and find out what it is all about. Please find the detail below. Regards, Kathy Breda ---------------------------------------------- Hyperlynx Developers Tool Kit Information - The e-mail contact person at HyperLynx is davek@hyperlynx.com - We have a form to fill out to get a free copy of the HyperLynx IBIS development system. It can be faxed to anyone that requests it. Call: us at 425-869-2320 and ask for Bonnie. Basic requirements for a free copy are: - Must work for a company that sells commercially available IC's. - Must agree to develop at least one IBIS model. - Must agree to make IBIS models available to the public free of charge. - Must agree not to use the IBIS development system to do customer support. (We expect applications people to purchase a copy.) The other details are in the form. (It is only 1 page, single- sided, so no need to be intimidated!) - What is in the development system: - HyperLynx Visual IBIS Editor This includes a built-in copy of the IBIS Open Forum EIA syntax checker and data validator which HyperLynx has licensed. - HyperLynx Easy IBIS Wizard A powerful program that makes it very easy to create an IBIS model by filling out a series of forms in a "wizard" format. The result is a syntactically correct IBIS model. Much of the data is synthesized from data sheet information instead of requiring the user to enter extensive V/I tables. - IBIS simulator to verify the device model in actual use. - Example IBIS models from numerous manufacturers. - Several simulation test files with various loads. Users can also create their own validation schematics to apply other types of loads, such as transmission lines. - The free version has a restricted version of the HyperLynx simulator (limited in the size of simulation schematic it will run). These restrictions should present no problem for anyone that simply wants to verify an IBIS model's simulation. - What platforms does it run on? Windows 95 and Windows NT (Intel platform only) NT versions 3.5x and 4.0 are both supported. - For those people that would like this tool and do not qualify for a free copy, the for-sale version is $3000.00 and removes restrictions on the size of the simulation that can be run. (Just order our standard LineSim package, as it will include all the components in the IBIS development system.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Have a great day... Kellee Crisafulli at HyperLynx kellee@hyperlynx.com http://www.hyperlynx.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------