Subject: RE: [Q] Is there any EDA simulator accepting Connector IBIS?
From: Roy_Leventhal@3com.com
Date: Thu Feb 21 2002 - 09:31:46 PST
All,
It was not my intention to "touch a nerve." I am aware that the connector
spec has been a hard issue to work on and like all true innovations it runs
the risk of opposition, lack of time and resources in tough times, and may
not be an ideal answer to the problem it is intended to solve.
The barriers that I hear (through my personal filter) mentioned thus far
are:
Frustration with the difficulties
Lack of continuity of involvement of some key people
Time and resources in tough economic times
A wish to avoid future pain by including IC package issue now
Some technical weaknesses - that I would like to understand better
Lack of interest on the part of EDA vendors - that will change when the
economy improves and the market need is there
But, my focus is on moving forward. The barriers mentioned thus far can all
be dealt with and we can move forward. I would not have asked my question
without first seeing a (slowly) growing need for the spec in the
simulations I'm required to perform.
So, without pointing fingers at any of the well intentioned, talented and
generous folks who have contributed to this effort, let's keep our focus on
moving forward and deal as best we can with the barriers.
Best Regards,
Roy
"Peters, Stephen" <stephen.peters@intel.com> on 02/21/2002 10:48:29 AM
Sent by: "Peters, Stephen" <stephen.peters@intel.com>
To: Roy Leventhal/MW/US/3Com, "Mellitz, Richard"
<richard.mellitz@intel.com>
cc: "'Lynne Green'" <lgreen@cadence.com>, ibis-users@eda.org, Dennis
Nagle<den@cadence.com>, perry.qu@alcatel.com
Subject: RE: [Q] Is there any EDA simulator accepting Connector IBIS?
Hi Roy:
The connector portion of the specification is ready for its second (and
hopefully final) editorial review and text cleanup, but we have decided to
add the hooks to enable the specification to serve as a general purpose
interconnect spec -- i.e. a package spec that supports coupling. The
intent
is to do this with minimal impact to the connector portion, and are meeting
weekly to get it out as soon as we can.
I realize the spec has been a long time comming, and I hesitated to delay
it further. However, I we felt the payback -- i.e. the ability to describe
coupled package models -- was well worth the few weeks delay.
Regards,
Stephen Peters
Intel Corp.
IBIS connector group
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy_Leventhal@3com.com [mailto:Roy_Leventhal@3com.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:42 AM
To: Mellitz, Richard
Cc: 'Lynne Green'; ibis-users@eda.org; Dennis Nagle;
perry.qu@alcatel.com
Subject: RE: [Q] Is there any EDA simulator accepting Connector IBIS?
All,
My question to this thread is: What are the issues preventing moving the
IBIS connector spec forward and submitting it for approval?
Best Regards,
Roy
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