All,
In case you are not familiar with the JEDEC SSTL specifications, I have attached
the SSTL_2 spec. This is the technology that is driving this BUG report.
-- Regards, Stephen M. Nolan Bob Ross wrote: > > To All: > > One of the discussion topics at the May 26, 2000 IBIS teleconference > meeting will be BUG41. Currently ibischk3 reports an Error if > the same pin is used for more that one differential input described > under the [Diff Pin] keyword. BUG41 proposes to relax this to a > Warning message. > > This issue arose with respect to describing SSTL-2 inputs whose inputs > are physically differential buffers connected to a common, external > reference voltage (designated VREF, but different from the timing test > load Vref) > > There is no explicit statement in IBIS that prohibits using the same > pin for several differential inputs. We did not anticipate this > application, and the Error report was designed in ibischk3. > > The purpose of this document is to collect arguments in favor and > against making the ibischk3 parser change (and related Specification > clarification). > > More arguments and discussions are welcome. BIRD41 is at the end for > reference. > > Bob Ross > Mentor Graphics > > Arguments in Favor: > > 1. Not prohibited in IBIS. > 2. Physical part uses differential inputs > 3. Effect of VREF noise on timing needs to be considered - can be handled > directly with differential inputs > 4. Current [Pin Mapping] keyword provides no association with VREF > supplies or dividers. > 5. Changing ibischk3 test from Error to Warning still alerts model > developer if a pin is used several times for differential inputs. > 6. Supports some extreme cases (beyond the Spec.) where voltages are > actually changed on VREF to set logic states. > 7. VREF referenced input structures are becoming common-place. > > Arguments Against: > > 1. While not prohibited, this application was not intended as confirmed by > the ibischk3 Error. > 2. Incompatible to some (but not necessarily all) EDA tools implementations > for differential buffer analysis. > 3. Contrary to a fundamental notion that differential nets should have > complimentary signals. > 4. Single-ended and differential timing testing methods may be different > (crossover versus VREF) > 5. Differential net layout driven by IBIS Model may be inconsistent (e.g., > should VREF line be matched time or length, or how will the inverting > VREF line be designed for controlled differential impedance with all other > non-inverting lines. > > 6. Nets are really driven by single-ended drivers, so they are functionally > single-ended. > 7. Model developers (and EDA tools) may ignore Warning messages. > 8. BIRD62.6 was designed to handle this type of network reference to VREF. > 9. Should not have different input if VREF is not available externally. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ****************************************************************************** > ********************* IBIS GOLDEN PARSER BUG REPORT FORM ********************* > ****************************************************************************** > > INSTRUCTIONS > > To report a bug in the IBIS golden parser. Please fill out the top part > of the following form and send the complete form to ibischk-bug@vhdl.org. > > A list of reported bugs will be maintained on vhdl.org. > > ****************************************************************************** > > PARSER VERSION NUMBER: IBIS_CHK V3.2.5 > > PLATFORM (SPARC, HP700, PC, etc.): SPARC > > OS AND VERSION: Solaris > > REPORTED BY: Bob Ross, Mentor Graphics > (Based on discussions with Stephen Nolan, Texas Instrumens) > > DATE: May 9, 2000 > > DESCRIPTION OF BUG: > The parser should be changed to issue a Warning message instead of an Error > message when common pins are used for differential pins. > > (The error can be preserved when the common pin positioned both as a > non-inverting and also as an inverting pin.) > > This change is requested because of SSTL-2 and SSTL-3 technology where > common pins are used for VREF and the buffers are constructed using > differential inputs and IBIS Version 3.2 does not specificly prohibit having > a common pin for more than one differential buffer. > > The file below currently generates the following messages: > > Checking bug41.ibs for IBIS 3.2 Compatibility... > > ERROR - Component 'Test': inv_pin '3' is not unique. > ERROR - Component 'Test': Diff_pin '3' already in use as an inv_pin. > ERROR - Component 'Test': Diff_pin '3' already in use as an inv_pin. > ERROR - Component 'Test': [Series Pin Mapping] Pin2 '2': model type cannot be > Series or Series_switch. > > Errors : 4 > > File Failed > > Note, only the first error would be changed to a Warning. The second and > third error would remain because it is caused the the last line under > [Diff Pin] which puts the non-inverting common pin as an inverting pin. > the last error is covered by BUG40. > > Also note, the Series elements can be connected to common pins. > > INSERT IBIS FILE DEMONSTRATING THE BUG: > > | > |*************************************************************** > | > | > [IBIS Ver] 3.2 > [Comment Char] |_char > [File Name] bug41.ibs > [File Rev] 1.0 > [Date] May 9, 2000 > > [Component] Test > [Manufacturer] Test File > [Package] > | variable typ min max > R_pkg 0.0m NA NA > L_pkg 0.0nH NA NA > C_pkg 0.0pF NA NA > | > [Pin] signal_name model_name R_pin L_pin C_pin > 1 PAD In NA NA NA > 2 PAD In NA NA NA > > 3 VTT POWER NA NA NA > 4 PADN In NA NA NA > > | > | > [Series Pin Mapping] pin_2 model_name function_table_group > 1 2 Rseries > 2 3 Rseries > > [Diff Pin] inv_pin vdiff tdelay_typ tdelay_min tdelay_max > | > 1 3 150mV -0ns NA NA > 2 3 150mV 0ns NA NA > 3 4 150mV 0ns NA NA > > | > |**************************************************************** > | MODEL Rseries > |**************************************************************** > [Model] Rseries > Model_type Series > | > C_comp 0.02pF 0.01pF 0.03pF > [Voltage Range] 2.50 2.30 2.70 > | > | variable R(typ) R(min) R(max) > [R Series] 100ohm 90ohm 110ohm > | > | > |**************************************************************** > | MODEL Term > |**************************************************************** > | > | > [Model] Term > Model_type Terminator > Vinl = 1.25V > Vinh = 2.5 > C_comp 0.02pF 0.01pF 0.03pF > [Voltage Range] 2.50 2.30 2.70 > | > > |**************************************************************** > | MODEL In > |**************************************************************** > | > [Model] In > Model_type Input > Vinl = 1.25V > Vinh = 2.5 > C_comp 0.02pF 0.01pF 0.03pF > [Voltage Range] 2.50 2.30 2.70 > | > |**************************************************************** > | MODEL Out > |**************************************************************** > | > [Model] Out > Model_type Output > Vmeas = 1.25V > C_comp 0.02pF 0.01pF 0.03pF > [Voltage Range] 2.50 2.30 2.70 > | > [Pulldown] > -5 -1 -1 -1 > 10 2 2 2 > [Pullup] > -5 1 1 1 > 10 -2 -2 -2 > [Ramp] > dV/dt_r 1/1n 1/1n 1/1n > dV/dt_f 1/1n 1/1n 1/1n > | > [End] > > ****************************************************************************** > ******************** BELOW FOR ADMINISTRATION AND TRACKING ******************* > ****************************************************************************** > > BUG NUMBER: 41 > > SEVERITY: [FATAL, SEVERE, MODERATE, ANNOYING, ENHANCEMENT] > > PRIORITY: [HIGH, MEDIUM, LOW] > > STATUS: [OPEN, CLOSED, WILL NOT FIX, NOT A BUG] > > FIXED VERSION: > > FIXED DATE: > > NOTES ON BUG FIX:
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