Andy, Thanks for clarifying this. The other concern i had was a. How does the V/T data(Ramp) and I/V data get used up at the boardlevel when simulted by a tool. As far as my knowledge goes ramp rate is imp but not V/T data for o/p and bidi buffers. I/V data generally depicts the drive strength of a buffer, how does this correlate into tranisient behaviour by board level tool when data(swicthing from 1 to 0 and 0 to 1 at some freq) is applied at dummy i/p pin. Do we have some documnt (board design) to understand how the IBIS data is interpreted by the signal integrity tool. Thanks again for your reply. Regards vinayak Andrew Ingraham wrote: >>I had this query as to why we need to model the buffers with R-load >>as in most of the cases it is c-load w/without TL line is >>driven by the buffer). >> >>does it reflect on the TL impedence that it drives? (50ohm environment) >> >> > >I think you hit the nail right on the head. > >If the buffer drives a transmission line that is 3 ns long, the device sees >an effective load of Zo (typically in the vicinity of 50-80 ohms) for the >first 6 ns after it switches. > >Regards, >Andy > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >|For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, email majordomo@eda.org >|with the appropriate command message(s) in the body: >| >| help >| subscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> >| subscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> >| unsubscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> >| unsubscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> >| >|or email a request to ibis-request@eda.org. >| >|IBIS reflector archives exist under: >| >| http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent >| http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent >| http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, email majordomo@eda.org |with the appropriate command message(s) in the body: | | help | subscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | subscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> | unsubscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> | |or email a request to ibis-request@eda.org. | |IBIS reflector archives exist under: | | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993Received on Thu Dec 22 21:17:36 2005
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